NEW CASE ON THE BLOCK £380+£35 P&P....PICTURE HEAVY
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why are you saying they are overpriced?
they arent mass produced, which is why the cost is high.
the case is very well designed and made from quality materials.
LittleDevil knows what he is doing, i have seen the quality of his SS units and they are sublime. i would expect this case to be the same quality, but you cant really say a case that is trickled out in small numbers like this is overpriced.
if anything you are paying for exclusivity.
saying it is overpriced means you clearly dont understand the concept involved in making a heavily enthusiast orientated product such as this.
go and buy and 900/haf/800d
like
everybody
else
they arent mass produced, which is why the cost is high.
the case is very well designed and made from quality materials.
LittleDevil knows what he is doing, i have seen the quality of his SS units and they are sublime. i would expect this case to be the same quality, but you cant really say a case that is trickled out in small numbers like this is overpriced.
if anything you are paying for exclusivity.
saying it is overpriced means you clearly dont understand the concept involved in making a heavily enthusiast orientated product such as this.
go and buy and 900/haf/800d
like
everybody
else
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Its fortunate for you that many of us do buy the mass produced cases you mention. You be out of a job if we didn't.
And why didn't you add the mass produced TJ07 to your list of cases that the uneducated and unenlightened masses buy?
Oh wait, you own one don't you?
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Agree with rjkoneill here. Anyone buying a case like this is going to be throwing high end hardware into it. If you're blowing £700+ on a 980x and £500+ on an SR-2 surely it's reasonable and proportional to blow £300+ on a case to put it all in and keep it cool to protect your investment?
Looks really well crafted. In an industry where most stuff is mass produced in China it's nice to see something built with such obvious attention to quality and detail.
Looks really well crafted. In an industry where most stuff is mass produced in China it's nice to see something built with such obvious attention to quality and detail.
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Its fortunate for you that many of us do buy the mass produced cases you mention. You be out of a job if we didn't.
And why didn't you add the mass produced TJ07 to your list of cases that the uneducated and unenlightened masses buy?
Oh wait, you own one don't you?
Pedantic post is pedantic.
Sand in vag and all that.
Silly comments aside. rjk is saying that custom built cases such as these demand a high price because of the craftmanship and limited availability and not to mention the potential they have with phase, watercooling etc.
Anyways I feel slightly more exclusive as I have a (hand built) Lian Li case, haha!
yeah the tj07 is mass produced.
totally agree. as is every other case on any etailers website.
i never said the tj07 wasnt mass produced, i merely highlighted those three cases that are churned out of ocuk in massive numbers on a daily basis.
when we sold tj07s we shifted around 2 a month which is a little different.
the point is that this IS NOT mass produced.
its sold by a guy in a shed with an ebay account doing it all off his own back.
not by an established case manufacturer
i urge you to name a single case that is so focussed and geared towards high end hardware and exotic cooling, because there simply isnt one that exists that doesnt require extensive modding.
this has been designed by an enthusiast who understands the requirements of a small number of specialist users.
there is mass market and a specialist market.
this product is aimed at the specialist market and its price is quite justified considering its feature set, design, materials and manufacturing costs.
the point...
you missed it
totally agree. as is every other case on any etailers website.
i never said the tj07 wasnt mass produced, i merely highlighted those three cases that are churned out of ocuk in massive numbers on a daily basis.
when we sold tj07s we shifted around 2 a month which is a little different.
the point is that this IS NOT mass produced.
its sold by a guy in a shed with an ebay account doing it all off his own back.
not by an established case manufacturer
i urge you to name a single case that is so focussed and geared towards high end hardware and exotic cooling, because there simply isnt one that exists that doesnt require extensive modding.
this has been designed by an enthusiast who understands the requirements of a small number of specialist users.
there is mass market and a specialist market.
this product is aimed at the specialist market and its price is quite justified considering its feature set, design, materials and manufacturing costs.
the point...
you missed it
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Oh he missed it.
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Oh really? Actually I totally get your point about niche market products and economies of scale and I agree with it. I studied economics at university after all.
I simply take issue with the way you berated the previous posters for expressing an opinion, however misguided they were, and I also take issue with you for denigrating the buying choices of your customers.
Personally I think its pretty good value considering what it is, ive paid that much in previous years for a custom anodised Lian Li case, you pay for what you get, not that im gonna get one but i think its very very nice
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I like it.
Not a big fan of the front if I'm honest. I would prefer more 5¼" bays (and maybe less 3½" internal), just to give me options.
Also not a fan of the fan grills, but they're not bad. Might have been nice if he'd just left a big hole so you could use your own fan grill of choice.
Loads of lovely radiator space in there though, 2 x 360mm (or is it 2 x 420mm?) and a 480mm. Should be enough to cool just about anything surely?
If I was spending a lot of money on the other components (say the water cooled version of this and a few GTX 580s and stuff) then I'd probably be ok with spending this much on a case.
Not for the exclusivity, just the fact it seems to have everything you'd want. If Corsair/CoolerMaster/Antec mass produced this case I'd still like it. Although it wouldn't surprise me if the sold it for a similar price (or more because of the logo).
Not a big fan of the front if I'm honest. I would prefer more 5¼" bays (and maybe less 3½" internal), just to give me options.
Also not a fan of the fan grills, but they're not bad. Might have been nice if he'd just left a big hole so you could use your own fan grill of choice.
Loads of lovely radiator space in there though, 2 x 360mm (or is it 2 x 420mm?) and a 480mm. Should be enough to cool just about anything surely?
If I was spending a lot of money on the other components (say the water cooled version of this and a few GTX 580s and stuff) then I'd probably be ok with spending this much on a case.
Not for the exclusivity, just the fact it seems to have everything you'd want. If Corsair/CoolerMaster/Antec mass produced this case I'd still like it. Although it wouldn't surprise me if the sold it for a similar price (or more because of the logo).
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Its fortunate for you that many of us do buy the mass produced cases you mention. You be out of a job if we didn't.
Really?
I have no idea what percentage of OcUKs business is purely cases but I find it hard to believe that rjkoneill would be out of a job if they didn't sell cases.
ok mr gunnz,
the simple facts are, this is not an antec 900
thats why it costs what it costs. im not 'denigrating' the buying choices of any customers.
99% of people have neither the knowledge or desire to own or maintain a watercooled system which would require a case such as this.
i have worked in the industry long enough to know that this is a niche product which wont sell in any great volumes.
my point again, boils down to highlighting that this case is not aimed at mass market.
my post was not meant to be condescending. but this IS an enthusiast hardware forum.
well at least it was when i joined. it seems to be currently overrun with posters who dont understand why people like LD endeavour to create such cool and awesome things.
i totally support projects like these because it drives forward design in other manufacturers.
who knows, three years down the line we could be looking at something resembling this case with a corsair/lian li logo slapped on the front of it.
[albeit at a lower price but with less exclusivity]
for the record, I didnt go to university, not that it has ANY relavence at all in a forum thread about a comuter case. but seeing as we are being pedantic...
the simple facts are, this is not an antec 900
thats why it costs what it costs. im not 'denigrating' the buying choices of any customers.
99% of people have neither the knowledge or desire to own or maintain a watercooled system which would require a case such as this.
i have worked in the industry long enough to know that this is a niche product which wont sell in any great volumes.
my point again, boils down to highlighting that this case is not aimed at mass market.
my post was not meant to be condescending. but this IS an enthusiast hardware forum.
well at least it was when i joined. it seems to be currently overrun with posters who dont understand why people like LD endeavour to create such cool and awesome things.
i totally support projects like these because it drives forward design in other manufacturers.
who knows, three years down the line we could be looking at something resembling this case with a corsair/lian li logo slapped on the front of it.
[albeit at a lower price but with less exclusivity]
for the record, I didnt go to university, not that it has ANY relavence at all in a forum thread about a comuter case. but seeing as we are being pedantic...
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I love the case I don't recall ever saying otherwise
High price or not I'd probably buy one. I buy in both the mass market and the specialist market. Almost imported a Mountain Mods case but having a family I dont have the time to lavish on it so I plumped for the 800D simply for speed of the build.
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Sorry to point this out. But last time I checked all these "qualified" uni students were rampaging around London urintating on war memorials, so really that means sweet F A in the real world.
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Perhaps you interpreted my post to literally. When I mentioned mass produced cases I meant mass produced computer products in general. My half joking post should have read 'if we didnt buy these mass produced products then RJK wouldnt be in a job'.
Once again I agree with you about the case. You don't have to keep defending it or repeating yourself. Its clear that its a niche product for the tiny percentage of hardcore WCers out there and its priced accordingly.
I challenged you for the vaguely patronising way you refer to those who buy mass produced cases - which you sell.
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A laughably sweeping generalisation.
I don't happen to be in agreement with that constituency of students who oppose raised tuition fees, nor am I the only one.
Nice looking case and so much room. I think the thread title is wrong though, it isn't a new case on the block this case is the block.
In regards to the price, I would say it is a highly priced not overpriced. Overpriced suggests that the price is more than its actually worth and its not. I could never see myself paying that for a case but never say never. I suppose you could look on the bright side, the size of the case you should be able to fit every pc in it you ever build (probably at the same time too) so no need to keep buying bigger/new cases.
In regards to the price, I would say it is a highly priced not overpriced. Overpriced suggests that the price is more than its actually worth and its not. I could never see myself paying that for a case but never say never. I suppose you could look on the bright side, the size of the case you should be able to fit every pc in it you ever build (probably at the same time too) so no need to keep buying bigger/new cases.