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460 vs 5850 (overclocked)

Dark_Angel

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Which of these 2 cards would be faster overclocked based on what they reach on average?

I'm having difficulty finding a review with the 2 cards competing against each other when they are both clocked.

I will be honest, I would prefer NV simply because CUDA. And my next machine is going to be doing some video work...

That said, I don't prefer either company in terms of brand loyalty... (I've owned both, and currently own an ATI card)...
 
Hm.

I did a bit of searching, the Geforce 470 wins out barely in a few, and the 5870 wins out barely in a few.

I'm thinking that's made me more confident to grab the 460. I really do want to use CUDA, or I'd save a few pounds for roughly the same performance and go ATI.
 
Depends a good 460 can clock well over 800MHz which will give a good overclocked 5870/5850 a run for the money. I'd say an average overclocked 460 will trade blows with a well overclocked 5850 and a well overclocked 460 will beat it by a small margin.
 
Hmm... that's a nice data set.

I think I'll just plump for the 460 then. CUDA seals it for me...

Though maybe if OCUK do a really good deal on the 470 I'll get that, but I can always SLI the 460's in the future if needs be! :)
 
The GTX470 does have more L2 cache than a GTX460 so I would check which card is faster for GPGPU functions.

Skyrocket said:
Thats a EVGA W.T.F card thats running on 900Mhz core and costs around £200.

HARDLY a stock 460....what bs review.
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Considering that an HD5850 1GB can be had for £125 from OcUK it does seem to make it better value than a GTX460 1GB for most games.
 
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Skyrocket said:
Thats a EVGA W.T.F card thats running on 900Mhz core and costs around £200.

HARDLY a stock 460....what bs review.
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What exactly are you smoking?. £200 460 Vs £125 5850 (soon to be £150) is a great comparison :D. Obviously sarcasm ;).

Cheapest 1GB GTX 460 is £149.99 which is what the MSI 5850 is going to be after stock arrives on the 24th of December. So a comparison with both these models stock and overclocked would be ideal.

I'm actually interested in seeing this as I have ordered the 5850 (with some DDR3). It will sit in this rig till I order my new CPU and motherboard Tuesday 28th. If the GTX 460 1Gb is this good then I may have to reconsider the 5850. I'm sure most benchmark reviews I've read had the 5850 as the better choice but Big Wayne has messed with my melon :confused: :D.
 
I have owned both GTX460's and 5850's in single and SLI/Xfire configs. All of my 460's overclocked past 900MHz and could match/exceed 5850 performance. Likewise all of my 5850's overclooked well also and could exceed the overclocked 460's.

The 5850 will be ~15% faster at stock and overclocked within games that do not require high levels of tessellation. The 460 may catch up as more games implement higher levels of tessellation.

Overall they are both great, but the 5850 currently offers slighty more performance.
 
Rroff said:
Depends a good 460 can clock well over 800MHz which will give a good overclocked 5870/5850 a run for the money. I'd say an average overclocked 460 will trade blows with a well overclocked 5850 and a well overclocked 460 will beat it by a small margin.
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What a load of crap.
 
Dark_Angel said:
Which of these 2 cards would be faster overclocked based on what they reach on average?

I'm having difficulty finding a review with the 2 cards competing against each other when they are both clocked.

I will be honest, I would prefer NV simply because CUDA. And my next machine is going to be doing some video work...

That said, I don't prefer either company in terms of brand loyalty... (I've owned both, and currently own an ATI card)...
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Avi Avivo doess the same as cuda its what made me plump for the 5850 the cuda might have an edge but not enough to take a leak in I shouldn't wonder.
 
Mr Krugga said:
What a load of crap.
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That was constructive...

Depends what reviews and benchmarks you look at, hard to get a clear picture, but does look like a 900MHz 460 does pretty well generally against an overclocked 5850 and an 800-900MHz 460 does trade blows with a well overclocked 5850.
 
Doing "pretty well" is not "trading blows" and definitely not beating the 5850. It's 10% behind however you look at it.

You should be in marketing.
 
For every benchmark I find with an OC'd 460 10% behind an OC'd 5850 I can find another that shows it 10% faster... generally as I said average overclocked 460s are generally trading blows with an overclocked 5850 and the upper end overclocked 460s are often beating them.

EDIT: Averaged one review which had a 1080MHz 5850 against a 900MHz 460 and the 5850 came out on top by 3.6% and I'm not sure how realistic 1080MHz on the 5850 is.
 
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