Ignorant iPhone users

But for some people, they don't care if there's something 'technically' better.

They want an iphone and they're happy to spend those £100's for it. The 'specs' mean nothing to some people, and to many iphone users they've still bought the 'best' phone - even if there are others with a faster cpu, or more flexible OS.

They just judge 'best' in a different way to you. So it really isn't worth worrying about. All you can do is point out the benefits of the alternatives, but if they aren't interested, then just let them be.

How do they judge 'best' then? The one that has the most adverts?

Yawn. No one is interested in an operating system name. They all use mobile phones so they're hardly ignorant. If you're getting upset because your mates have iPhones and you don't, then its more like your fault.

Not everyone wants to micromanage their apps and have uber control over every element. Some people just want a basic device that does all without a ton of user intervention. Not everyone is a geek.

Upset that my friends have iPhones?! No. Pleased that I bought something perfect for my needs and wants and runs rings around the iPhone? Yes. Of course it's a matter of opinion!

Android can be as complicated as you want it to be. Novice users can get along with it just as well as with iOS, they're really quite similar in terms of UI when it comes down to it. You said people weren't ignorant, well they're not all stupid either.
 
Not everyone wants to micromanage their apps and have uber control over every element. Some people just want a basic device that does all without a ton of user intervention. Not everyone is a geek.

They must have an element of geek in them if they are paying £500 for a phone when a £20 one will do the phone stuff just as well, if not better.
 
Yawn. No one is interested in an operating system name. They all use mobile phones so they're hardly ignorant. If you're getting upset because your mates have iPhones and you don't, then its more like your fault.

Not everyone wants to micromanage their apps and have uber control over every element. Some people just want a basic device that does all without a ton of user intervention. Not everyone is a geek.

This.

Upset that my friends have iPhones?! No. Pleased that I bought something perfect for my needs and wants and runs rings around the iPhone? Yes. Of course it's a matter of opinion!

Android can be as complicated as you want it to be. Novice users can get along with it just as well as with iOS, they're really quite similar in terms of UI when it comes down to it. You said people weren't ignorant, well they're not all stupid either.

You sound like you're in denial.
 
They must have an element of geek in them if they are paying £500 for a phone when a £20 one will do the phone stuff just as well, if not better.

Not at all. It's paying for the brand and image for a lot of people. No different to buying cars/houses/clothes/watches etc.
 
Well done.. you pretty much sum up all that is ignorant and uneducated about the average iPhone user in one sentance. Congrats and merry Christmas :D

It's true though, most vanilla install UIs look terrible.
 
Not at all. It's paying for the brand and image for a lot of people. No different to buying cars/houses/clothes/watches etc.

I think a lot of the iPhone haters are the types who don't buy into popular stuff just for the sake of it too though. I just want to get the best thing for me. I'd research before buying any of those other things you mention, with the exception of clothes perhaps, though when shopping there is a decent element of that. I get the impression a lot of people think there's the iphone and that's it. It's particularly bad in the UK I reckon as nobody else seems to advertise.

It's true though, most vanilla install UIs look terrible.

I had the opposite experience with my phone, but I haven't seen all stock UIs on the lower power android devices. Which did you have in mind?
 
The 2 in my house atm are the wildfire and x10, though I don't like the desire either.

The only people affected by iPhone users are the very small minority of geeky android users. I'd bet 99% of android owners do not root them or do anything which makes them worthy of note over an iphone
 
The wildfire should come with the Sense interface, which people really seem to like, same with the Desire. I guess it's a personal preference thing. Not sure about the X10, I've been steering clear of SE for a while now, made some dreadful handsets in the last 4 years or so.

As for rooting etc, I don't even have a permanent root on, you don't need to in order to appreciate android over iOS. We are on a heavily tech-based forum, and so that 'geeky minority' is massively overrepresented here, so you may be right about average Joe, but not on OcUK.

Anyway, to address the OP, the Android market share is gaining quickly on iOS, and will probably be the most popular phone OS by the end of next year or 2013. That will probably lead to increased exposure and awareness.
 
It was designed for their target audience. :p

In all seriousness, does it matter? If they chose to buy an iPhone, does it affect you?

Course not, 2 people in my immediate family have them and I'm not bothered as I have my own handset, but it's just the discussion topic we're stumbling around in this thread.
 
Having sold both iPhones and Android phones for almost a year now, I think I'm in a place where I can make a well informed comment about the buying habits of people who buy these phones:

iPhone buyers:

Generally, most people come into the shop and ask what the prices on an iPhone are even if they're looking for something completely different, almost in the hope that our prices will be different (/cheaper) than anywhere else (which of course, they're not [apart from 3 who seem to be using witchcraft to sustain their pricing strategy :p]).

Most people want an iPhone because (as has been said many times in this thread) it's shiny, trendy, expensive and all their friends have one so they must also get one. These people know nothing about ROMs, apps, different OS's and most didn't even know that they COULD copy and paste on a phone for years before apple made a big thing about it.

However, they also are a bit more open minded to other options when it comes to alternatives like android (mainly after being told the price for an iphone), but I'll explain more about that when I go into android buyers.

You also get a few people who want an iphone and will get an iphone no matter the cost, the alternatives available or even if it means they have to give up the use of their left leg. These people tend to be more techy and well informed but some are just trendy and NEED the latest gadget in their lives.
This mentality is very similar to the "teenage girl wants a blackberry" mentality.

As I work in a phone shop in Bath, we get quite a lot of wealthy customers come in. I recently had one gentlemen who bough two iphone 4's for his two daughters (aged 12 and 14), both on the £45 24 month contract plus £29 for each phone upfront. Just because his daughters wanted them. They didn't know why they wanted them, but none the less they wouldn't consider anything else. You just think........ why?!


Android buyers:

A lot of people that buy android phones in our store, are people who originally came in looking to get an iphone. They want something with a touch screen and gadgety and cool but collapse when they see the price of an iphone and so want to get as close to one as possible without paying the price.

After us explaining to them that, actually, for what they want the phone to do, they could have a wildfire or defy for example which is half the price and does almost exactly the same thing, they come to their senses and go in the android direction.

There is however a small caveat to these sorts of buyers. No matter how much we explain how to use the phone, set up a google mail account and go and download apps, they will never, ever make any decent use of the phone and just use the basic features it came with.

This problem arises, a lot of the time, from these people being told by their techy friends to get the htc desire hd or samsung galaxy s because it's amazing and you can do lots with it, when in fact, a nokia c5 would suffice or at most, a wildfire.

We see so many people come in with android phones that have never had apps downloaded onto them and have never backed up their contacts. Either that, or they have created a googlemail account and downloaded apps, but, despite us warning them to remember the details, when the phone goes wrong and they come complaining to us about it, they suddenly forget them and we have to explain that their contacts will be lost as they're backed up to google and there's no way to get them back if they don't know their details.

I suppose non-techy people get a little bit confused with android as it takes a tiny bit of work to get the best out of it (i.e. set up a mail account and download the apps etc), where as with an iphone, there's no thinking involved at all as you're pretty much told what's best for you and you follow apples rules.

The best kind of people that come into my store are the well informed, relaxed techy types who have done their research and know exactly which phone they want, and 8/10 times they want an android phone such as a desire. They, will happily chat away with you for a while about different apps, the advantages and disadvantages of different handsets and their features and generally will be upgrading from an android phone such as a G1 or a hero anyway.


Conclusion

There are two sides to every story, and in my experience, I've sold more android phones to idiots than I have iPhones, but that's probably because they're cheaper and so they're available to a bigger market.

I myself use a jailbroken iphone 3GS 16gb and I've customised it to the hilt with various things so I guess I kinda get the best of both worlds.

I love android though, especially on the samsung galaxy s (touchwiz is fantastic as is swype, and yes I know you can get swype on other handsets) as it's so versatile and most of the apps are free.

I can pretty conclusively say that after showing people an android phone next to an iphone and explaining the price difference and the advantages/disadvantages, most people will end up going android. I just wish that more of them would put the effort in and get the best out of their phones.




Anyway these are just my observations, so you may disagree and have had different experiences with people yourself, but this is just what I've found.

Anywho,

MERRY CHRISTMAS! :)
 
No different to pre android then, except the OS wasn't such a consideration, people would just be pushed to the current SE or Nokia phone because it did what people wanted.
 
As for the market share argument, that means nothing really. Android should be the major os on the market in terms of share, it's on hell of a lot more phones, from budget to premium ;)

Android is just an os, the iPhone is part of a brand, an image. One that isn't watered down by crap products :p
 
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