Meaning of life and Consciousness ?

One word, emotion. ;)

For that reason AI will NEVER be like humans, we are amazing!

EDIT: OcUK group hug? *hug* :D
 
The

But emotion is judt a pre programed chemically induced state. To further the race.

Is'nt that a blinkered way of looking at it though. Every single person is different and the scale as to which it affects them is different aswell.

It's like saying your father killed your mother so you must get 100% angry etc etc. You know what i mean? Obviously there would be more than just one emotion involved with that statement but i'm just giving an example.
 
I don't think it's a simplistic view, as your redponse will depend on the balance of chemicals and of course your life experiences. So the basic reaponse is similar bit the outcomes covers a huge range due to the variables.
 
Is'nt that a blinkered way of looking at it though. Every single person is different and the scale as to which it affects them is different aswell.

It's like saying your father killed your mother so you must get 100% angry etc etc. You know what i mean? Obviously there would be more than just one emotion involved with that statement but i'm just giving an example.

If all emotion comes from a cocktail of chemicals (which research suggests it probably does), then it would be mind bendingly complicated to try and and figure out which chemicals do what in which proportions in relation to which alleles they are being produced and at what rate.

I pretty much struggled to understand how a root hair cell grows in a plant as it's a massive feedback loop between neighbouring cells of about 30 different genes at different rates and levels and different times (and there are about 5 variations of each relevant gene and protein), and that's ONE cell.

Another example of complexity is the growth of the human body. If we all come from one cell, and that cell divides to create two cells and so on, how does one cell know to become the head (anterior) and one cell know to become the feet / lower half (posterior)? It is insanely complicated, yet it happens.

Accordingly I don't find it unplausable that chemicals and dna expression are behind all emotions - there are just too many complicated things that happen in the human body to doubt it entirely.
 
I don't think it's a simplistic view, as your redponse will depend on the balance of chemicals and of course your life experiences. So the basic reaponse is similar bit the outcomes covers a huge range due to the variables.

Variables, precisely.

If OP was asking whether AI could be like humans then no, could they do what humans do in terms of functions then yes!

I just dont see how a robot can find a design floor with somthing
and then change it next time round, say if it was building a new car engine.
 
Same way we do, we change things due to errors or ineffencies or taste.
Robots can allready learn from past activities and modify there response.
 
About what? There are several learning robots. Especially in the worlf of walking robots.

Ive always thought that we will suddenly hit a point where technology will ecplode. As at slme point a supercomputer will be able t hold all our knowledge on physics, chemistry and biology and will understand it to invent dedigns, usuing a baturall selection/evolution process and would analysis the dedigns in simulations.
 
The whole 'could we create AI'. As mentioned previously by Rroff, the first process of the program will never be self aware, it will always be just that, a program.

That's why life is amazing surely because at the end of the day we don't actually have a clue how we are here. We know our history, how it happened, what we evolved from etc etc. Why THIS planet though?

We know what ingredients in the melting pot were needed so to speak but we don't know why this particular recipe has created such extraordinary animals. Sometimes you just need to stand back and go "Yeah, fair play"
 
Last edited:
Is the basic part of our brain self aware? The part which cobtrolls brethibg, automatic rexflexs and ofher badic functions. Would a self aware couter have any idea why it existed?

Why we are here, has no baring on self awareness.
 
Yes i think it must be.

How come? I see the brsin as two distinct entities.

Do you chose these automatic reactions, do you think of badic ghoughtd like I'm hungry. I would say no, these are all automatic responses to sensors. It isn't till the highdr brain starts to compare thede requests and sensor inputs with past experiance and resoning, do you get the complex responsesand this is the part which is selfaware.

Are yo selfaware when you are unconcse? Yet your animal brain still majes choiced abd keeps you alive.
 
How come? I see the brsin as two distinct entities.

Do you chose these automatic reactions, do you think of badic ghoughtd like I'm hungry. I would say no, these are all automatic responses to sensors. It isn't till the highdr brain starts to compare thede requests and sensor inputs with past experiance and resoning, do you get the complex responsesand this is the part which is selfaware.

Are yo selfaware when you are unconcse? Yet your animal brain still majes choiced abd keeps you alive.

Are we not self aware when we're asleep though. Dreams?
 
True. I'm 24 and just left uni, I'm no scientist so don't have the foggiest about how to counter argument that really. What i will say though is if we might not be self aware in the dictionary sense but maybe we are self aware on a animalistic level.

Self awareness is still just a term given to the ability to know one's self.
 
I would like to know peoples take from a scientific or by comparable reason religious argument to this question.

Is consciousness something created or evolved through time.

By this you mean a higher being etc. If assumed created then how far do you go back thru established & researched evolution b4 life was deemed created?..Ah, evolution. Thing about being "created" etc, lets imagine the human population was suddenly wiped out. Then technically the ideoligies of God etc would also disappear, there would no longer be a higher being & the lower species would carry on regardless along with their own levels of consciousness.

I'm really interested in the conscious and if we can recreate something similar in AI(robots) ?

Has it been created so far?

Depends on the time period you ask the question. Ask it in the 1500's & you'd be asked what AI & a robot is & be laughed at. Ask it now the answer is unsure. Ask it in another thousand years time, AI with a conscience might be answering you. No-one can answer you at present as no-one knows what the future along with it's discoveries & breakthroughs have in store.
 
Back
Top Bottom