Is Santa a mini religion for kids?

bloodline76 said:
You mean the promise that you will go to heaven isn't a nice present? Sure beats the pair of socks I got :p
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I'd rather have the socks, they are more useful.
I'm not wasting ~80 years of my life getting nothing back for something that NOBODY can prove comes after death.
 
bloodline76 said:
Well Santa is winning at the moment. My feet are nice and toasty :D
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Lol. Mine aren't :(
My boy got me socks with days of the week on, really thoughtful from his working out as to why I would like them so I was impressed, however, only pairs for mon-fri :(
 
I caught Santa emtying his sack all over my bed........then I realised it was my primary school caretaker dressed up :p.

When I was very little my mum told me that if I misbehaved the 'nasty lady' would come and take me away in the back of her van. Santa is no different to this and neither is religion - It is all using made up people to control people's behaviour through fear.
 
vonhelmet said:
Your logical abilities suck balls.

Had to be said sooner or later.
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Not really, there is no scientifically accepted fact/theory or anything similar to do with God existing, as such it is safe to say that he does not exist... and since he does not exist, believing in an imaginary being is a delusion

Do I need to quote Pirsig again?
 
Wow, we are making comparisons between Father Christmas and religion now? Father Christmas is meant to be a bit of fun for the kids, there's no reason to attach any significance to it above and beyond that. If you would like to analyse it from every angle though, feel free to carry on but as the people of Dragons' Den would say, "For that reason, I'm Out". :p
 
rypt said:
Not really, there is no scientifically accepted fact/theory or anything similar to do with God existing, as such it is safe to say that he does not exist... and since he does not exist, believing in an imaginary being is a delusion

Do I need to quote Pirsig again?
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Have you ever heard of Darwin's 'abominable mystery'?

Despite coming up with evolution, Darwin could never understand how the flower evolved. It was just impossible as it made no sense whatsoever what set of intermediates could exist between the angiosperms (flowering plants) and the gymnosperms (non-flowering plants, the most 'advance' of which have cones instead of flowers). Darwin even wrote with dispair that this truly was an 'abominable mystery'. For decades people hypothesised and failed to come up with any logical sollution to the dilemma - there was no evidence to suggest that one was a decendent of the other.

Through the 1990s a very clever team of scientists decided they would see what happened if the knocked out the genes that were being expressed in the flowers of the plant - using technology that was unheard of only 30 years before.

They found out that by knocking out the location of where certain genes were expressed, they could totally change the morphology of the flower. They called this the ABC model:

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Ultimately, they found out by changing the location of where the A, B and C genes were expressed, and in which quantities, they could essentially transform a cone producing plant into one that produced flowers, and a flower producing plant into something that resembled an unconventional cone. In other words, they found evidence to suggest that flowers probably evolved as a result of a series of transcriptional and translational mutations in the A, B and C genes of plants :)

Now, you might be wandering what this has to do with anything, but there are a few things you should take note of.

1) Science never assumes that something is not true because there is no evidence to support it.

2) A lack of evidence is not evidence to the contrary.

3) Just because we don't have a way of observing something, doesn't mean we might not be able to do so in the future.
 
mglover070588 said:
I caught Santa emtying his sack all over my bed........then I realised it was my primary school caretaker dressed up :p.

When I was very little my mum told me that if I misbehaved the 'nasty lady' would come and take me away in the back of her van. Santa is no different to this and neither is religion - It is all using made up people to control people's behaviour through fear.
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No offense but your mum sounds mental to say something like that to a child :eek:

I think you missed the point of the thread. It is indeed about using things to control peoples actions.
 
rypt said:
Not really, there is no scientifically accepted fact/theory or anything similar to do with God existing, as such it is safe to say that he does not exist... and since he does not exist, believing in an imaginary being is a delusion

Do I need to quote Pirsig again?
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OK... I'll temper what I said slightly... Either your logical and philosophical skills are not up to much, or you're deliberately antagonistic, or both.

I could go on, but it would be a waste of time, and Castiel and Dolph must be busy anyway so I'd be left handling this on my own which I can't be arsed with.
 
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