Ex-polytechnic, and while a Oxford degree is great, do I really want to spend 4 years doing a subject I don't enjoy?
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Christian assemblies in schools could face axe over claims they infringe children's human rights
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Yes because Jesus' father the almighty God placed the embryo in mary's womb. Joseph was not the biological father of Jesus christ. This i thought was common knowledge to most?.
Mary had an affair, and made up a lie to cover her pregnancy. Jesus was the illegitate son of Mary and some random dude she pumped.
That's what I don't get, you quit a 4 year undergrad course for a 1 year post grad.....where did you do your undergrad degree.
100% attended at my school. Before this thread I didn't even think it was an option to skip it.
Are those 15% because of other religions? Did they ask you if you wanted your son to attend or not, or would you have to request?
If 15% of kids are already skipping it then it wouldn't be a big deal for parents to have son/daughter to not take part... but in my situation, that wasn't the case. So the argument really isn't moot.
He goes to a Roman Catholic faith school, and the option is given to you, you don't have to request it. afaik the only kid of another faith rather than none or Christianity is his friend David who is from a Buddhist family, he attends.
I went to a CofE school where everyone attended RE and assembly, no one was indoctrinated, I don't think you were either.
The fact is that assemblies are not a big deal to begin with so only the most fervent parent would make an issue of it. The argument really is moot.
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From your other post it sounds like you went to a Catholic school, which is quite different to a local comprehensive school. If you have a beef with your education then talk to your parents about it, don't take it out on other kids.
No, I quit a 4 year undergrad, for a 4 year undergrad ... this is my final year of the 4 year undergrad
Hence why I'm getting an MEng (straight though in 1 go masters degree) rather than an MSc (post grad only)
I see. That makes it worse, you could have done an engineering degree at a far better university (not necessarily Oxford), Bristol isn't far for example and still done the Motorsport M.Sc at Brookes. I would have thought that would have been a more sensible option careerwise.
Forgive me, I just find it hard to understand the reasoning in dropping from a top 4 University globally to one that struggles in the UK league ratings by choice.
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Well yes, I could have done an undergrad degree elsewhere and then do a 1 year MSc or similar
But I chose to do a 4 year Motorsport engineering MEng (or 3 year BEng if I decided to change to that) degree instead, because over the 4 years the modules covered were all of at least some interest to me (even if a few of them are crap).
The problem with straight engineering degrees, or even mechanical engineering degrees, is that they all have other bits. Mechanical spends far too much time on materials and stress, other engineering things spend more time on structural, etc. Motorsport degree covers the exact same things as Mechanical, bar the very last Materials and Stress modules) but also does things on Engines & on Chassis.
It also does simulation stuff that Automotive does not do
But I chose to do a 4 year Motorsport engineering MEng (or 3 year BEng if I decided to change to that) degree instead, because over the 4 years the modules covered were all of at least some interest to me (even if a few of them are crap).
The problem with straight engineering degrees, or even mechanical engineering degrees, is that they all have other bits. Mechanical spends far too much time on materials and stress, other engineering things spend more time on structural, etc. Motorsport degree covers the exact same things as Mechanical, bar the very last Materials and Stress modules) but also does things on Engines & on Chassis.
It also does simulation stuff that Automotive does not do
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The option was given to you... that's a hell of a lot different than requesting your child be taken out of assemblies. I appreciate honesty though.
Nobody believed in the God throughout your school? Because if they did because of their teaching - they're kinda indoctrinated, no? The fact you realise later on for yourself doesn't change the fact.
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I have no idea what people believed, frankly most kids in my school where just bored by the whole thing and I think you'll find that is still the case with the vast majority of kids. They're not sitting in assembly thinking "God is Great, Allelujah!", they're sitting in assembly thinking "Holy Crap, I've forgotten my math book!" or "I wanna snog Laura from 4D" or something....
They were not indoctrinated, and neither were you. If the education system that teaches you religion also teaches you to question then it's a pretty poor way to indoctrinate someone, don't you think? I think you need to look up what indoctrination actually means because if you accept Assemblies and RE as indoctrination then you need to consider that education in a whole range of subjects from Food Tech to Sex Ed to Sociology to History can all be called indoctrination on some level...
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Well, considering the number of intolerant, argumentative atheists it seems to have produced, perhaps "religious indoctrination" isn't all that harmless...
All religious people are atheists anyhow. By removing one dominating religion, it removes any "offence" to other religions.
This is not to say that religious education should be banned. Children should learn about other cultures and religions, not forced to carry out one or the others practices.
Simples.
This is not to say that religious education should be banned. Children should learn about other cultures and religions, not forced to carry out one or the others practices.
Simples.
I had it in my head from an early age that religion was a form of brain washing, so I didn't buy it, no. But that can't be said for everyone. We were never taught to question it, we were taught crap from the bible, did plays about it and said prayers to the all mighty god.
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You're taking the view of Stephen F. Roberts then - "I contend we are both atheists, I just believe in one fewer god than you do. When you understand why you dismiss all the other gods you will understand why I dismiss yours."?
It sounds like you were indoctrinated....against religion.
You don't need to be taught to question any specific subject be it RE or Evolution, but I am sure your overall education in the same school that taught you religion, taught you the skills to question everything and come to your own conclusions....
Am I right....
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