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HIS 6970 set up

[WU-TANG]GZA;18101165 said:
Bit of a ballache this really just for a gfx upgrade.

thats why you bought an antec with loads of fans tho ? to keep it nice n cool inside
i know i did, then i cut the fan out and added the window mod, now its cool inside and out ;)

seriously tho wu, these cards are hot cards, its not how u have set it up with the psu, its because you need to create a fan profile and keep the auto fan off, and you need to make sure there is good airflow in the case
 
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Yea dual screen would be the cause of high idle clocks and temps.

Doesn't explain the high load temps though, someone on the other thread suggested you take the side off the case and see if that effects anything. It's a sound suggestion to try and will most likely tell you if the GPU fan is not getting enough air (other parts near drawing air away from it).

Yeah I'll try some games with it off. Played BC2 earlier and manually set fan to 55% (which is pretty loud lol) and temps were at 78c which is much more like it. I just can't have the fan at 55% when idling so maybe I'll just do that have 50c+ at idle and 80c with 55% fan when gaming - worst case scenario.

But the FPS issue also bugs me - just don't know if that's what I should be getting or not - cos Andyr only got 60fps too in l4d2 but his was solid and mine fluctuates between 40 and 60 and plays REALLY choppy when on full anti alias. Could just be a left4dead thing.....too many factors !!
 
[WU-TANG]GZA;18101048 said:
hmm good point - Hard to tell cos it's not a VERY strong fan but I do think it's sucking into the case rather than out. Is that normal/factory standard?

The other thing that I've noticed is that going from having web browser up as opposed to minimised even makes a difference to the temps? OcUK told me over the phone that that is normal but I've never noticed it before and doesn't seem normal to me lol

EDIT: Maybe it's because im on dual screen and CCC doesn't report the card as anything less than 500Mhz on the core when idle/browsing etc.

Dual monitors will cause higher idle clocks, and temps. Nvidia cards are the same too.
 
[WU-TANG]GZA;18101209 said:
Yeah I'll try some games with it off. Played BC2 earlier and manually set fan to 55% (which is pretty loud lol) and temps were at 78c which is much more like it. I just can't have the fan at 55% when idling so maybe I'll just do that have 50c+ at idle and 80c with 55% fan when gaming - worst case scenario.

But the FPS issue also bugs me - just don't know if that's what I should be getting or not - cos Andyr only got 60fps too in l4d2 but his was solid and mine fluctuates between 40 and 60 and plays REALLY choppy when on full anti alias. Could just be a left4dead thing.....too many factors !!

Performance can drop if temperatures are too high. Try looking after one issue at a time and see if it solves the rest.

Ultimately it could be a dodgy heatsink but best to try and troubleshoot to that conclusion, absolve your system from blame first.
 
agree with the drivers are fiddly to install though , took me a number of goes to get it to recognise the card, hopefully 11.1 will be better.
So what is thought to be the best way of installing the drivers, is it not simply removing old drivers, plug card in, install 10.12a?
 
OK so yes my PSu is sucking in and blowing up towards my sound card and the 6970 but the intake of the 6970 is at the other end.

http://img149.imageshack.us/img149/5929/caseg.jpg

It's not as dusty as it looks:p but I will clean my front intake fans they are due a clean.

It's just weird things like card idling at 48c but then I open Outlook it will jump to 53c then back down. Kind like watching CPU usage lol very weird....

Is there anything I can do about my PSU? Turn it around and make it face another way? It was an OcUK prebuilt system so I would have thought they know best.

EDIT: What about Power Control Settings in CCC - should I change that -20% or +20% ?
 
[WU-TANG]GZA;18101165 said:
That's a tough one mate - why don't you just wait until April and make your upgrade then and give your mum what you have now?

Oh yeah and leave me without a computer until April!!! :eek:. That's the way I first read your reply mate lol. I see what you mean and I would have taken this approach but I've sold my motherboard, CPU, cooler and RAM to a friend already and he's paid upfront although he knew I wouldn't get all my parts till just after the year when DPD start delivering again.

[WU-TANG]GZA;18101165 said:
Then you will have even more money to spend on new rig? That's prolly what I would do rather than giving your mum an i3 or i5 - would she need that for email/browsing?

Yeah but as I've sold my parts to my friend it's a good option for gaming and then it will be a nice upgrade from my mums overclocked X2 3800 + 2gb of DDR. She will be mainly surfing and using email but she does do the odd bit of video editing so the i3 will be miles ahead of the X2.

Also my friend who is buying my parts, I sold him a PC about 3 years ago and 6 months ago the DFI Lan Party PCI-E slots died leaving him without a PC.

So I can sort out my mate now so he can play PKR, then I can upgrade my mother as her system feels sluggish.

Mate I'm sorry for waffling on and destroying your thread. I'll just keep reading and see what happens as a lot can happen in 20 hours. Thank you for the advice.

[WU-TANG]GZA;18101165 said:
I will have a look at my PSU now and see. Thing is, why wouldn't my temps for the 4890 have been higher also if it was something with my rig? I think what GJ02 is getting at is putting a side fan in my case perhaps. Bit of a ballache this really just for a gfx upgrade.

Just try things and see what happens. This is a new graphics card and a new set up, I reckon you'll get there mate, just persevere. I'm already looking forward to your happy ending ;).
 
Hmmm, have you tried a single card each mate to see if it's only crossfire related?.
 
Same case as you and my 6970 idles 42-43c at 20% fanspeed so something isn't right.

Your dust filters cleaned out?:p
 
Same case as you and my 6970 idles 42-43c at 20% fanspeed so something isn't right.

Your dust filters cleaned out?:p

Well the front ones haven't been done in a while - I'm talking about 3 months so they're not completely clogged. But I doubt that is going to reduce the temps by 10c and lower idle fan :D

I'm gonna have a smoke, then clean my front fans then try again. If that doesn't work then I think I'll haveto return it.

BTW, does your PSU suck in and blow up like mine does? (picture above)

Just noticed your PSu so I assume it does yes. LOL we pretty much have the same rig lol.

NICE !
 
I think so, the number on the side of the psu is upside down.

Mine is a Goliath, i've just changed the cooler and gfx card.

Think it may be your heatsink to be honest, if you do not want to re-seat it then just return it however if you do wish to re-seat it you could even whack some MX-3 on it too then for good temps.(only worth doing this though if you've done before as gfx cards require more paste than cpus.)

I also HATE the fan too.....i love the card but the fan is severely putting me off.:(
 
I think so, the number on the side of the psu is upside down.

Mine is a Goliath, i've just changed the cooler and gfx card.

Think it may be your heatsink to be honest, if you do not want to re-seat it then just return it however if you do wish to re-seat it you could even whack some MX-3 on it too then for good temps.(only worth doing this though if you've done before as gfx cards require more paste than cpus.)

I also HATE the fan too.....i love the card but the fan is severely putting me off.:(

Mine is a Goliath too :D

I just got mine just over a year ago so it's MKI Goliath not MKII.

Well has my smoke, cleaned my fans (they did need cleaning) alas on auto fan control @27% i'm idling at 52c.

It's gotta be the heatsink so I think I will send it back :(

Unless people think that the fact it's dual monitor and therefore 500Mhz idle would acount for a 10c increase? Actually coming to think of it it was same temps when I didn't have my 2nd monitor working so....

Would it be RMA then or DSR?

Thnx all for help.

Wu
 
I hope a move around of the drivers helps as there is something wrong here. A 5850 beats the 4890 pretty easily so the 6970 should destroy the 4890.

The temps do seem a bit crazy too. Are they higher than everyone else?. In fact they must be or you'd realise yours is the norm, sorry for that brain fart there.

The fan noise seems a bit OTT too, could you set up a partition and do a fresh install of the OS?. It shouldn't be ramping up the fan like that and everyone else seems to be happy with the card other than you and another person who has upgraded from the 4870 to the 6950.

I'm looking forward to seeing some progress and benches. Good luck amigo :).

Well the MSI 5850 is on order and is coming tomorrow. It's been on order since before Christmas (DPD + weather) but since this BIOS swap thing has happened and people not so happy with the overclocking of the MSI 5850 I decided to go with the 6950. From the benchmarks it seems like the 5850 is a 50% upgrade to a 4870 roughly and the 6950 is about the same in some titles although a lot closer in others (25-50%).

So to buy a 5870 when the 5850 is on it's way tomorrow would be pointless I think. OCuK have told me to refuse the order so I've really got tonight to think before ordering tomorrow. If I feel the 6950 won't be worth it at 1600x1200 then I might just accept the 5850 tomorrow and buy a i5 760 quad instead of the i3 540. Choices, choices, choices. TBH it's doing my head in :).



How do you feel about your card?. Also what did you upgrade from and do you feel the change since upgrading?.

I'm in the same boat with regards to my new card as I'm in Edinburgh aswell, your card defo coming Friday? Mine is now at the Glasgow depot for some reason
 
[WU-TANG]GZA;18100253 said:
Now I know that neither of us are running rigs like they do in the benches on Tom's Harware (main difference to mine being the i7 980x) but looking at this a 5870 gets 123fps on full settings and we're getting 60?

That just doesn't seem right to me.

http://www.tomshardware.co.uk/charts/2010-gaming-graphics-charts-high-quality/Left4Dead-2,2476.html
Those are 'average' fps...it doesn't mean the minimum fps won't drop to the 40-60fps range. Source games love the extra speed on the CPU, so higher clock on your CPU could potentially give you higher frame rate (but to be honest I think your CPU is already fast enough, but you could clock it higher just in case).

But damn...those 6950 are HOT! To think people bitched about the Fermi being hot as hell all these time, and this happens as soon as AMD/ATI implement good tessellation capability on their cards...

Let's hope the 28nm process cards that's come next gen would be able to deliver high tessellation performance without high power consumption and heat...
 
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Those are 'average' fps...it doesn't mean the minimum fps won't drop to the 40-60fps range. Source games love the extra speed on the CPU, so higher clock on your CPU could potentially give you higher frame rate.

But damn...those 6950 are HOT! To think people bitched about the Fermi being hot as hell all these time, and this happens as soon as AMD/ATI implement good tessellation capability on their cards...

Let's hope the 28nm process cards that's come next gen would be able to deliver high tessellation performance without high power consumption and heat...

They are not hot, they are fine, (80c max whilst gaming in my case.) any extra heat over the 5850/70 will be caused by the ram chips as they have 4 more of them outputting around 15 watt of heat each. (Possibly more in the 6970's case.)
 
They are not hot, they are fine, (80c max whilst gaming in my case.) any extra heat over the 5850/70 will be caused by the ram chips as they have 4 more of them outputting around 15 watt of heat each. (Possibly more in the 6970's case.)
I meant the 6970...I think I must have typed 6950 by mistake :p
 
I recorded mine whist gaming last night and the max temp recorded was 72 degrees , i do have the side of the case off at present as i have just watercooled my nb , looking for leaks :eek:
 
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