I guess 27-30inc LED 120hz monitors...
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really dont see the "massive ammount of lag" affecting anyone but serious professional gamers, having had mine for 2 weeks now ( upgrading from 2405wpf ) i havnt noticed any input lag whatsoever and i WAS a high skill css player but more like low+/mid now and not once have i died and thought.......if i had my 2405 i wouldnt have died there!
i say go for it, the ps3 looks stunning on it too
i say go for it, the ps3 looks stunning on it too
Funnily enough, I just signed up to the forum to ask specifically about upcoming 27" 3D monitors.
I spent the entire day reading the forum - plus reviews etc (oh I love this time of year in work!).
The only one announced so far seems to be the Asus. It's still not shipped, even though it was announced in May (isn't that illegal? It used to be...6 month rule etc)
I need a 3D monitor in the near future, as I bought the Fujitsu 3D W1 months ago and I've had enough of not seeing the output in it's true glory. I'd go for a 3D TV - but the 42" Sony we have is in no way needing replaced, and we're not the kind of family who'd sit and watch 3D movies anyway.
I'm thinking the best bet would be to get a good price-point 22 or 23" 3D monitor that works now with the Nvidia kit - knowing I'll flog it in 1 year. The LG or even Acer for example.
I am, however, an avid "immersion" fan - and have been for near on a decade. I shudder to think how much I've spent on kit over the years (yes, I have VR headset, ancient field effect head tracker etc). I'd try games just for the immersion experience to be honest.
The sticking point is that I'm now so used to large screens - I really would prefer 27".
So, should I hang fire and wait for hopefully a slew of new releases? Or accept that we're still at the foot of the curve and just go for the current kit?
I spent the entire day reading the forum - plus reviews etc (oh I love this time of year in work!).
The only one announced so far seems to be the Asus. It's still not shipped, even though it was announced in May (isn't that illegal? It used to be...6 month rule etc)
I need a 3D monitor in the near future, as I bought the Fujitsu 3D W1 months ago and I've had enough of not seeing the output in it's true glory. I'd go for a 3D TV - but the 42" Sony we have is in no way needing replaced, and we're not the kind of family who'd sit and watch 3D movies anyway.
I'm thinking the best bet would be to get a good price-point 22 or 23" 3D monitor that works now with the Nvidia kit - knowing I'll flog it in 1 year. The LG or even Acer for example.
I am, however, an avid "immersion" fan - and have been for near on a decade. I shudder to think how much I've spent on kit over the years (yes, I have VR headset, ancient field effect head tracker etc). I'd try games just for the immersion experience to be honest.
The sticking point is that I'm now so used to large screens - I really would prefer 27".
So, should I hang fire and wait for hopefully a slew of new releases? Or accept that we're still at the foot of the curve and just go for the current kit?
One of the issues is that 1080p @ 120hz is already right on the limit of duallink DVI bandwidth. This means that your traditional 30" screen with a 2560x1600 resolution is not technically possible using the existing method of providing 120hz.
The consequence of this is that while people may want bigger screens, often they also want a higher resolution to do with the bigger screen size. And there-in lies the problem - will people accept a 30" screen with a resolution of only 1920x1080?
The consequence of this is that while people may want bigger screens, often they also want a higher resolution to do with the bigger screen size. And there-in lies the problem - will people accept a 30" screen with a resolution of only 1920x1080?
Yes, a trade off I think most would make, but why does it have to be upto 30"? 27-28" would be more than enough.
I'm going to wait till after the Vegas announcements.
As for size v resolution, I actually don't mind lower resolution on a larger screen for gaming. Immersion comes from a lot of things, one major one being how far your field of vision is filled.
Man Cutters in HL2, on a 42" Sony Bravia whilst wearing Sennheiser headphones...oooh....
As for size v resolution, I actually don't mind lower resolution on a larger screen for gaming. Immersion comes from a lot of things, one major one being how far your field of vision is filled.
Man Cutters in HL2, on a 42" Sony Bravia whilst wearing Sennheiser headphones...oooh....
really dont see the "massive ammount of lag" affecting anyone but serious professional gamers, having had mine for 2 weeks now ( upgrading from 2405wpf ) i havnt noticed any input lag whatsoever and i WAS a high skill css player but more like low+/mid now and not once have i died and thought.......if i had my 2405 i wouldnt have died there!
i say go for it, the ps3 looks stunning on it too
I've tried a couple of the newer 23-24" 120hz monitors and i'll have to admit, the difference over 60hz is quite astounding. It's one that's hard to understand until you've actually tried one in person, but it's definitely noticable. There's no input lag on a couple of those i've tried, at all, and the difference between those and the larger ones with at least 40ms input lag is pretty substantial.
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It's a shame you couldn't use 2 x DVI cables in order to overcome this limitation...
TVs generally are only 1080p resolution which is pretty low by PC monitor standards (for 30"+). Also I believe many of these so-called "200hz", "600hz" etc TVs can't actually take 200/600 updates, they are interpolating.
It looks like I will be skipping "monitors" for time being.
Bought a 40" 1080 3D ready LED 100Hz Sony Telly for 699£ that makes a mokery out of the current monitors, picture wise.
I quit playing CS long time ago to care about input lag.
Bought a 40" 1080 3D ready LED 100Hz Sony Telly for 699£ that makes a mokery out of the current monitors, picture wise.
I quit playing CS long time ago to care about input lag.
It looks like I will be skipping "monitors" for time being.
Bought a 40" 1080 3D ready LED 100Hz Sony Telly for 699£ that makes a mokery out of the current monitors, picture wise.
I quit playing CS long time ago to care about input lag.
Technically speaking - at that price you would compare it to a smaller but higher resolution IPS panel. At anything other than distant viewing from not too well trained eyes the image quality of the Sony would lag behind. A lovely TV and the refresh rate is a bonus but best not make apples to oranges comparisons in something as general as 'picture'. Speaking from broader knowledge - the most important thing for any display is not technical merit but how you, the viewer, find the overall experience. It is obviously positive with the Sony TV so a good buy!
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Maybe. Picture quality can be a very very tricky subject.
Got a 2407 Dell A02 atm and looking to move up.
This gives me Nvidia 3d which is a great feature if I wish to use it.
One thing we can agree NO monitor comes close to giving you:
- LED
- 3D
- 27-30+"
- sound on monitor
- aesthetically pleasing
The only thing that came close to fulfilling my needs would have been:-
3 x Benq xl2410t in surround vision for 750£?
Bezel management and bezel vision loss , 3 cables and the W draw, all presented MAJOR problems with this setup.
3 x Benq xl2410t in surround vision for 750£?
Bezel management and bezel vision loss , 3 cables and the W draw, all presented MAJOR problems with this setup.
Absolutely. I think you've made the right choice for yourself really. I am quite excited to see what CES 2011 will bring but I reckon the more spectacular screens on display will be the OLEDs - still some way off affordable and readily available of course. I also expect that kind of technology to make its way onto TVs before computer monitors, specifically.