Wrong according to your opinion. Stating that you don't need to explain your opinion when you are contradicting someone else's is rude and arrogant, especially if that same person is asking you to elaborate.
Wrong according to your opinion. Stating that you don't need to explain your opinion when you are contradicting someone else's is rude and arrogant, especially if that same person is asking you to elaborate.
I vaguely remember, and have been told by my parents, playing 'Doctor and Patient' with a female friend when I was younger (much younger than 10, but that's moot). Obviously that wasn't sexual in the slightest, but from what I have been told it occasionally got taken to far and we were told to stop. This was all obviously totally innocent. My point is that many of these circumstances may not be seedy and because of "bad parenting" or whatever else but it may be that harmless, innocent fun (children being children) and playing got taken a step to far and penetrative sex has occurred. Who's fault is this? The parents, for not supervising the children every minute of the day? The schools, because these things aren't taught well enough? Possibly, but to teach everything and for everything to go into a child's brain and to supervise every minute of the day are both impossible (as well as wrong).
I admit, schools do need to do more sex education and need to do it more effectively. We as a society seem to have an odd obsession with sex (as demonstrated by the videos, and the stories of 'stripper poles' for kids and what not) but we also try and brush any sort of 'unmarketable sex' under the carpet. Kids just don't feel comfortable discussing sex with their parents/teachers and this is also wrong as they won't get all the help they can and these things will continue to happen and when something does (be it pregnancy, an STI, or whatever else) there isn't the support available to them. I knew of many school friends who would never discuss sex with their parents and ended up getting into difficulties and weren't sure where to turn. My parents knew I was having sex from an early age, and whilst they weren't entirely happy with that they accepted it was going to happen and made sure I could approach them if something did go wrong.
I admit, schools do need to do more sex education and need to do it more effectively. We as a society seem to have an odd obsession with sex (as demonstrated by the videos, and the stories of 'stripper poles' for kids and what not) but we also try and brush any sort of 'unmarketable sex' under the carpet. Kids just don't feel comfortable discussing sex with their parents/teachers and this is also wrong as they won't get all the help they can and these things will continue to happen and when something does (be it pregnancy, an STI, or whatever else) there isn't the support available to them. I knew of many school friends who would never discuss sex with their parents and ended up getting into difficulties and weren't sure where to turn. My parents knew I was having sex from an early age, and whilst they weren't entirely happy with that they accepted it was going to happen and made sure I could approach them if something did go wrong.
See post #174. They are demonstrably wrong.
I though the average age was around 12, with it geeting slightly younger due to a link with weight, which in turn is linked with the number of girls being overweight.
Either way at 9 there is no way most boys are thinking about sex. They may be seeing girls as different but I doubt many boys could even "get it up" at that sort of age!
And it also forgets the fact that the average age of a first child is going up. In fact his entire post is the opposite way round.
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I was making fun of the original post. Seems I was a touch too subtle for some.
Oh okay I see now ;D
It's not my opinion. It's simple, objective fact.
If I posted that the sky was always purple with delicate green stripes, would it just be your opinion if you said it wasn't? Would you need to elaborate? If so, how would you do it?
I've gone looking on medical sites again, to be sure. Apparently the normal age range for the start of puberty is 8-13 for girls and 9-14 for boys.
There's a lot of variation in normal human development, as shown by the wide range considered normal for the start of puberty. The duration of puberty can also vary, as can the stages. I developed earlier than normal in some ways, but not in others. For example, I didn't start growing into my adult body size until a bit later than normal.
It's probably rare for 9 year old boys(*) to be thinking about sex, but some do and some are physically capable of it. I know that, because I was. Medical sites indicate that it's not normal but not necessarily an indication of any medical problem. I'm in my 40s now and apparently in good health, so I think it's fair to say there wasn't anything wrong with me.
* Strictly speaking, in these cases they'd be adolescents, not boys. Although I'd see them as being boys.
Well it's less than it used to be before the printing press was invented so that ****s the "the media did it argument"
While in the discussion I fall more on the side of the "it happens, lets try and prevent it by education, but it's not the end of the world"
Should a 10 year old child be allowed to carry a baby to term?
I'm not sure of the practicalities and implications of a 10yo having an abortion, do all these 3 a year actually have the child?
If they do, is the actual figure for 10yo pregnancy higher?
Should a 10 year old child be allowed to carry a baby to term?
I'm not sure of the practicalities and implications of a 10yo having an abortion, do all these 3 a year actually have the child?
If they do, is the actual figure for 10yo pregnancy higher?
I would suggest that mandatory abortions are probably worse than the odd 10 year old getting pregnant.
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Que seen 'meeting the parents' in the future. Well I am 20 and my Mum is 30.
Its a difficult one; some can say blame the parents, some can say blame the children... some even go as far as to blame the outside world influencing there children.
When it comes down to it i simply think its the accepted view of most people these days. Children hanging around the streets in groups; no idea why they think this is fun to stand around streets in the cold and cause problems, could be better for them than listning to the parents. Obviously they are learning from one another; i dont really think there is a solution to the problem other than keep kids indoors.
At 10 i was more intrested in my playstation and my action man. And im not exactly old either
When it comes down to it i simply think its the accepted view of most people these days. Children hanging around the streets in groups; no idea why they think this is fun to stand around streets in the cold and cause problems, could be better for them than listning to the parents. Obviously they are learning from one another; i dont really think there is a solution to the problem other than keep kids indoors.
At 10 i was more intrested in my playstation and my action man. And im not exactly old either
It's nothing new, kids now are the same as they were 15 years ago, and by most accounts kids then were as near the same as they were 40 years previously.Its a difficult one; some can say blame the parents, some can say blame the children... some even go as far as to blame the outside world influencing there children.
When it comes down to it i simply think its the accepted view of most people these days. Children hanging around the streets in groups; no idea why they think this is fun to stand around streets in the cold and cause problems, could be better for them than listning to the parents. Obviously they are learning from one another; i dont really think there is a solution to the problem other than keep kids indoors.
At 10 i was more intrested in my playstation and my action man. And im not exactly old either
Exactly, when we were kids we'd hang out around the streets causing the odd problem but all turned out ok!
The problem these days is that information spreads a lot easier so it looks like there are massive problems everywhere. This was pointed out nicely when one Halloween a parked car got turned over about a mile from my house. How did I hear about this? On this very forum!
iirc puberty can be "brought on" early by kids being fed fast food (or any high fat content food)
happens often in low income families
tbh you hear about girls being brought in (to hospital) under 13 all the time. lots of them know exactly what they are doing and have the praise of their family (who did the same when THEY where 16 or so)
most perents in this situation seem to be "oh well she's mature for her age"
this may be so physically but mentally I doubt it.
stop paying people to have children.
or rather, stop paying people BECAUSE they have children.
atm lots of people see child=free house + money.
this needs to stop
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