Inevitable spec me a Sandy bridge system thread to join the billions of others....

mythicdawn07

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£1500 to spend, basically only use it for gaming.


Must be future proof only need OS, have monitor,keyboard etc.


Lets see what you guys can come up with, really want my new system ordered Asap i'v waited long enough for SB :D
 
• Intel® 2nd Generation Core™ i7-2600K Overclocked @ 4.80GHz - Eight Thread CPU
• 4GB Mushkin Ridgeback 2000MHz 7-10-8-27
• Gigabyte GA-P67A-UD4 Intel P67 (Socket LGA1155) DDR3 PCI-Express Motherboard - SLI Certified
• NVIDIA® GeForce® GTX 580 1536MB Graphics Card
• Corsair Cooling Air Series A70 CPU Cooler - 2x 120mm in push/pull
• Arctic Silver 5 Thermal Compound
• BitFenix Colossus Venom Edition Full Tower PC Chassis
• XFX Pro Series 850W Single Rail PSU - GeForce® GTX 570 SLI Certified
• 40GB Mushkin Callisto deluxe 2.5" SATA-II Solid State Hard Drive (Boot drive)
• 1TB Samsung Spinpoint F3 HDD (Storage drive)
• Samsung Blu-Ray SH-B123L/RSBP 12x BD-ROM / 16x DVD Writer Drive
• 1 Years Warranty



Hows this look £1429?
 
No need for the i7, pretty small SSD, and you missed windows, oh and the Sammys are out of stock atm

This has 6950 which can be flashed to a 6970 (see the gfx forum), Asus mobo which uses new UEFI BIOS as opposed to old legacy, you've got change from your £1500, though you could add a 2nd 6950 if you like, but theres no real need

HIS ATI Radeon HD 6950 2048MB GDDR5 PCI-Express Graphics Card £233.99
Intel Core i5-2500K 3.30GHz (Sandybridge) Socket LGA1155 Processor - Retail £189.98
OCZ Vertex 2 "25nm Edition" 100GB 2.5" SATA-II Solid State Hard Drive (OCZSSD2-2VTX100G) £163.39
Asus P8P67 PRO Intel P67 (Socket 1155) DDR3 Motherboard - (Sandybridge) £149.99
Coolermaster HAF X Gaming Tower Case - Black (RC-942) £142.97
Corsair HX 850W ATX Modular SLI Compliant Power Supply (CMPSU-850HXUK) £140.93
GeIL 8GB (2x4GB) DDR3 PC3-12800C9 1600MHz VALUE PLUS Dual Channel (GVP38GB1600C9DC) £91.90
Microsoft Windows 7 Home Premium 64-Bit - OEM (GFC-00599) £83.99
Seagate Barracuda 7200.12 1TB SATA-II 32MB Cache - OEM (ST31000528AS) £45.95
Titan Fenrir Evo CPU Cooler (Socket LGA775/LGA1156/LGA1155/LGA1366/AMD K8/AM2/AM2+/AM3) £36.76
Pioneer 24x Internal S19LBK DVD Rewriter including Labelflash SATA Retail £17.99
Sub Total : £1,081.52
Shipping cost assumes delivery to UK Mainland with:
DPD Next Day Parcel
(This can be changed during checkout) Shipping : £14.75
VAT is being charged at 20.00% VAT : £219.25
Total : £1,315.52
 
Prefer the I7, GTX 580 (Nvidia fan boy), is that mobo sli ready too?

Also 8gb ram is abit overkill, id prefer 4-6 gb of a decent brand, never heard of geil before but it seems too cheap to be good quality ram.

any other thoughts? the system i posted doesnt have a great cpu cooler as far as i know, and the SSD is pretty small. Other opinions would be great :).
 
mythicdawn07 said:
Prefer the I7, GTX 580 (Nvidia fan boy), is that mobo sli ready too?

Also 8gb ram is abit overkill, id prefer 4-6 gb of a decent brand, never heard of geil before but it seems too cheap to be good quality ram.
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Errm OK, Geil are one of THE best RAM manufacturers (link) but nvm
its either 4 or 8 gig, theres no 6 in the equation, and whilst I agree 4 gig is fine now, 8 doesnt cost much more, is well within budget and adds a bit of "futureproofness" (yes I know :p)
I understand some people prefer NVidia to ATi and thats fair enough, but you can pick up 2 6950s for same price as a 580, flash em to 6970s and they will eat a 580 (theyll eat a 580 even without being flashed)
Dont know why you prefer i7 to i5, it offers absolutely nothing in terms of gaming performance and costs a ton more
 
95thrifles said:
Errm OK, Geil are one of THE best RAM manufacturers (link) but nvm
its either 4 or 8 gig, theres no 6 in the equation, and whilst I agree 4 gig is fine now, 8 doesnt cost much more, is well within budget and adds a bit of "futureproofness" (yes I know :p)
I understand some people prefer NVidia to ATi and thats fair enough, but you can pick up 2 6950s for same price as a 580, flash em to 6970s and they will eat a 580 (theyll eat a 580 even without being flashed)
Dont know why you prefer i7 to i5, it offers absolutely nothing in terms of gaming performance and costs a ton more
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Yeah i seen benchs on the 6950s but have no idea how to flash them and afaik nvidia drivers seem to be better for most games, plus i could always upgrade to sli 580s in the future when they drop in price, also prefer the I7 because i have a lot of things open in the background when gaming and sometimes two games open at once think the I7 with help abit there?

no idea i'm a rookie when it comes to computers, just want the very best i can get for my budget :)

Also mess around with GECK etc for creating mods for Fallout etc.
 
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seriously i7 will not offer you anything over i5, just cos it costs more doesnt automatically mean its better, if youd said you spend loads of time encoding or rendering then yeah, but for your uses, no
If you insist on NVidia Id go 570 over 580 as imo 580 isnt worth the premium, if you insist on 580 then you need a bigger PSU, 1000W, as SLId 580s draw 851 (source Anandtech) and its always best to have headroom
 
95thrifles said:
seriously i7 will not offer you anything over i5, just cos it costs more doesnt automatically mean its better, if youd said you spend loads of time encoding or rendering then yeah, but for your uses, no
If you insist on NVidia Id go 570 over 580 as imo 580 isnt worth the premium, if you insist on 580 then you need a bigger PSU, 1000W, as SLId 580s draw 851 (source Anandtech) and its always best to have headroom
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i really hate it when people come in and say stuff like this, fact of the matter is its CPU over GPU in new builds and unless the guy is rich thats how it should go if you want value from a pc.

sure u can throw in a cheap i5 + 580 but what happens after that gtx 580 becomes midrange? nothing as you would be bottlenecked by the midrange cpu so you would be coming back to this thread going omg why did i take his advice when i could have got an i7 2600k and a gtx 570.now that person cant upgrade his GFX unless he upgrades the cpu too yes great advice.

at least with a 4.6GHZ cpu and a good corsair PSU u can throw in whatever card you like in SLI for the next 2 years.


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simply replace all things i7 with sandybridge and get 2133mhz ram.ignore the keyboard/mouse in the build as thats for myself i will do you one tomorrow when i am not tired. personally i am going to SKIP an SSD and instead get a £50 caviar black 640gb so i can have the gtx 580.This way you can wait on the 415mb read crucial c400 and get all the nice goodies in the above basket.


this is the best way to afford a beast system as i have done 3-4 builds now and learned my lessons on how to survive 4 years with the same pc.i would also take nvidia over ati due to drivers and things like ambient occulsion and 3D.
 
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yes but since he is gaming, an i7 is worthless for him.

also 580 is not worth the premium, if you prefer nvidia go 570 which will eat most games at max resolutions and you can SLI later, just make sure you get a motherboard that supports PROPER SLI/CrossFire.

also on reply to the above about drivers : I've used nVidia cards for like 10 years, then last year I was tired of people moaning about ATi drivers so I said to myself "I'll prove em wrong" and I want and bought one. Then I was sick of people complaining about crossfire problems with drivers etc, and again I bough another card. Matter of fact is that ATi are just as crap as nVidia's. I've never had anymore problems with CF ATi than I've had with my mx420/5700fx/7900gs/9800gt.

3D? since he is not buying a 120Hz monitor now, scrap the 3D nonsense and just spec a bang for the buck PC with his budget.
 
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So you think a i5-2500K will bottleneck a graphic card in the next 4 years..

People are specing to his requirements, he is a gamer, no need for an i7, not like he is rendering.

Also people don't generally like seeing others pour money down the drain.
 
how is an i7 worthless when gaming? suddenly the cpu is worthless when gaming? its not when its bottlnecking graphics cards so why say an i7 is worthless? go look at gta iv etc.if you are going to give advice to go anything but sandy bridge then im sorry but thats laughable.

he wont get xfire on sandybridge unless he pays for the ud5 so he needs a killer single card if he wants to play crysis and considering he wont get over 40 max with a 580 and will get around 70-80 in BC2 max settings then if he has the money and can get one for £400 i think its preferable over a gtx 570.

the guy has 1500 quid and wants the pc to be futureproof so why on earth are people advising him to get midrange systems?


and on the ati v nvidia , i have owned both and the only time i have had problems is with ATI who offer no 3D or ambient occulsion.sure he doesnt need 3D now any might never use it but there is still ambient occuslion which again is something ati dont offer so why choose ati now? they offer nothing apart from the 6950 to 6970 and even then i would still take nvidia.

im not a fanboy either so dont start that i simply choose whats the best.
 
because games do not make use of hyper threading.
as for the problems encountered with ATi vs Nvidia, its all pretty much based on LUCK and only luck. I've never had a problem with crossfired ATi's whilst I had a few probs with nVidia cards, while on some PCs I repair I find problems from both ends which are impossible.
again, a 580gtx is not worth the premium.
I'm speccing a PC I believe is suitable for his needs using my judgment on components, and I cannot justify the extra cost for that performance gains.
 
the difference was £30 and personally id rather have HT and higher grade silicon for that £30.if the price gap is more then yea i may suggest him to go an i5 sandybridge but i still maintain he should stick to the i7 as he clearly has a decent budget and wont miss £30

he asked for the best for £1500
 
LOL @ Eyefinity

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Rofflay said:
the guy has 1500 quid and wants the pc to be futureproof so why on earth are people advising him to get midrange systems?
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Its not mid range, its a system suited to his needs, theres a difference

Games have only just started using more than 2 cores, the idea if he gets an i7 now it future proofs his system as he can swap out his gfx card is nonsense if by any chance games do start to utilise HT in next 3-4 years he can swap out his CPU too, thats allowed you know
Also iirc the price difference was a lot more than £30, the 2500k i5 was £190 iirc and the 2600k i7 £280

This chart clearly illustrates (in the game you mention) no difference what so ever in performance between the 2 chips when it comes to gaming (in fact actually the i5 has 1fps higher min but we'll ignore that :p)

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No ones debating the 580 is better than a 570 but as can be seen here

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the average frame increase is 7fps, up from 38 to 45, thats an 18% performance increase, the average 570 costs circa £300 and the average 580 £450 which is a 50% premium, thats just not economic sense hence why most people will recomend a 570 as it is seen more to be the sweet spot in terms of price/performance

So please explain to me how my recomendation was laughable???
Also just as a note, youll find a lot of people on here have done a few more than 3-4 builds ;)

Edit: Oh BTW the charts were courtesy of techreport if anyone wants to check up on them
 
There's some nonsense being talked in this thread. 95thrifles is correct and is exactly the way I'll be going. I could buy an i7 but I will never get the money's worth out of it. If I find and i5 is limiting me in a few years (unlikely given the console porting) I'll just sell it and replace with the equivalent at that time. Makes a lot more sense in the long run.

Oh and something for the doubters to Google "The law of diminishing returns", applies to a lot of things in life ;)
 
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