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HD7000 Series rumoured this year

Will it be better than the 6900 series or just a more effecient less-powerful version of it? (like what they did with the 6870 and the 5870).

Difficult to say with AMD, liked them better when they were good old honest ATI.
 
xiphrex said:
Will it be better than the 6900 series or just a more effecient less-powerful version of it? (like what they did with the 6870 and the 5870).

Difficult to say with AMD, liked them better when they were good old honest ATI.
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This was a naming scheme change though. The 6970 was the successor to the 5870, not the 6870. Also people running out and buying because of a name is nothing I'd be worried about as it's common sense to check what you're buying before handing over your money.

If the 6970 is better than the 5870 then you can be sure they'll bring out a successor to the 6970 in the 7 series. They've done it with every release. Even though R600 was a failure due to Microsoft bending over and letting Nvidia have their wicked way with the DX10 spec, without AA it ran great over the X1900 series before it. In fact you have just made me think of something, when they released the 3870, it was efficiency, heat and value that changed but, this was within 6 months of the 2900 series launch and I regard the 4800 series as the next upgrade. The 3870 was just a quick fix because of Microsoft and Nvidia with the DX10 initial specs. ATI done what was asked and Nvidia wormed their way out of it by still doing hardware AA and then Microsoft kidney punched ATI.

I love Nvidia cards. I just disagree with what happened with DX10 as well as Assassins Creed and the DX10.1 code removal from a TWIMTBP title.
 
xiphrex said:
Will it be better than the 6900 series or just a more effecient less-powerful version of it? (like what they did with the 6870 and the 5870).

Difficult to say with AMD, liked them better when they were good old honest ATI.
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6870 was NOT a "more efficient less-powerful version" of the 5870. The numbering scheme slightly changed for the 6000 series which continues to confuse people.

The 5870 was replaced by the 6970, which is roughly 10-20% more powerful depending on the game and settings used. Not a huge increase, but still significant when you consider both cards are on the same 40nm fabrication process. Thus, when the 6970 replacement comes (lets call it the "7970" for arguments sake) it should (in theory) offer significantly higher improvements, as it is on a new process, which will permit big reductions in power consumption, temperatures and die size, therefore also allowing significant performance increases.
 
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The 2900xt was massively faster than the x1900xt in ALL situations, full stop.

Likewise the 3870 was only as fast as a 2900xt, however a 3870x2 spanked it all over the place and cost a similar amount, it was basically 50-85% faster and thats what you got from the "new gen".

There hasn't been a new series from AMD that hasn't offered a significant performance boost.

The 6970 is as small as its gotten, but the 6990 should, partially due to improved crossfire scaling, likely show a bigger performance improvement over the 5970(still the fastest card available) and this is entirely down to the 32nm process being canceled, nothing more or less.
 
drunkenmaster said:
The 2900xt was massively faster than the x1900xt in ALL situations, full stop.

Likewise the 3870 was only as fast as a 2900xt, however a 3870x2 spanked it all over the place and cost a similar amount, it was basically 50-85% faster and thats what you got from the "new gen".

There hasn't been a new series from AMD that hasn't offered a significant performance boost.

The 6970 is as small as its gotten, but the 6990 should, partially due to improved crossfire scaling, likely show a bigger performance improvement over the 5970(still the fastest card available) and this is entirely down to the 32nm process being canceled, nothing more or less.
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Yeah the cancellation of 32nm allowed them to fine-tune and perfect the 40nm architecture. I agree that the 6990 should be a very impressive card because of the improved xfire scaling, and it will crush the GTX 580 and significantly outperform the 5970. Of course, it will also leave a massive hole in your bank balance...
 
drunkenmaster said:
The 2900xt was massively faster than the x1900xt in ALL situations, full stop.

Likewise the 3870 was only as fast as a 2900xt, however a 3870x2 spanked it all over the place and cost a similar amount, it was basically 50-85% faster and thats what you got from the "new gen".

There hasn't been a new series from AMD that hasn't offered a significant performance boost.

The 6970 is as small as its gotten, but the 6990 should, partially due to improved crossfire scaling, likely show a bigger performance improvement over the 5970(still the fastest card available) and this is entirely down to the 32nm process being canceled, nothing more or less.
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titaniumx3 said:
Not when you enabled AA and considering that I was comfortably using 4xAA in many games when I had my X1900XT, the 2900XT was disappointing to say the least.
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I agree totally with Titanium. I went from the X1900XT overclocked to the 2900Pro overclocked past XT speeds and without AA, it truly was an upgrade. Add AA however, the story changes and it was pail in comparison to the 8800GTX and didn't feel a big upgrade from the X1900 series which could still do hardware AA. So yes it was an upgrade but not a significant one due to the low blow Microsoft delivered to ATI.
 
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