Itching to upgrade that Ati 5870 to a shiny new 6 series card ?:rolleyes:

[Sayso]

I disagree.

And really who cares about Macs?

They are ******************

Fact is people who are wise and ditched their 5870's are in a good place with a 6950/6970 under the hood

Coming from a 5870 to the new 69** cards isnt worth it, perhaps if the 69** series get voltage unlock etc you will see a large difference.

I bought a 6950 at £200 and upgraded from a 5850 (PCS version)...its loud and hot, but its a reference card that i will be able to watercool as soon as the blocks come out.

I couldn't run this card with stock cooler its driving me mad and that to me is a disappointment, dont get me wrong its an improvement and worth the £80 extra i had to payout when i sold my old card but im regretting not biting the bullet and getting a gtx570.

 

[blackninja]

I got me 2x6950 to replace my 5970 @ 950/1300 .. and guess what, I am satisfied with my decision. Especially as they are now 6970s @ 935/1450 just gagging for a voltage adjustment tool and some decent cooling

Ones sense of value is very subjective you know, to me they were good value as they are definitely faster/smoother and anyone who says otherwise is talking from their perspective which obviously I do not agree with!

Great cards and I look forward to upgrading next January too

 

[nbkpsycho]

I disagree about the "moving from the 58** to 69** is pointless"

I sold my two asus 5870's and moved to a 6950(flashed). I done this because if i kept hold of the 5870's any longer they where going to be worth next to nothing and there was no upgrade path(crossfire). I must admit i expected going from my 5870's to a single 6950(6970) that i was going to see a big drop in performance but that wasnt the case at all. Ill be adding a 2nd card as soon as funds allow as these are cracking cards for the money. And as for those benchmarks the results seem abit off going by my experience etc.

 

[mike gunnz]

I thought the release of the 69** cards was a good time to get a used 5870 for crossfire personally since all the 69** early adopters flooded the MM with their 5870s thus pushing the price down. Everyones idea of what constitutes good value is different I guess...

 

[555BUK]

There should have been a tessellation intensive game or two within that benchmark. I am sure Metro would show much larger wins for 6900 (and GTX570), but it does show that AMD's new core design and NVidia bit refresh have not made significant jumps. If only the 6900's had those anticipated 1920 shader cores.....

 

[easyrider]

I bought a 6950 at £200 and upgraded from a 5850 (PCS version)...its loud and hot, but its a reference card that i will be able to watercool as soon as the blocks come out.

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Your case cooling must be crap

My idles at 35c (fan 24%)and full load hits about 70c Fan 33%)

 

[easyrider]

I disagree about the "moving from the 58** to 69** is pointless"

I sold my two asus 5870's and moved to a 6950(flashed). I done this because if i kept hold of the 5870's any longer they where going to be worth next to nothing and there was no upgrade path(crossfire). .

Exactly

Ditch and shift...if the upgrade cost's £50 you are still quids in.

 

[CraigN]

I dont see why.

My 5870 plays anything I want at 1920 x 1200, why would i change to a 69xx that runs hotter noisier and id have to change my display config again because of the different outputs.

In real usage terms other than 3d mark e-peen points there is no advantage of the new cards over mine.

 

[easyrider]

I dont see why.

My 5870 plays anything I want at 1920 x 1200, why would i change to a 69xx that runs hotter noisier

Hotter and noiser?

35c idle with fan at 24% and 70c full load with fan at 35%

Not sure my 6950 is getting hot or noisey

 

[phill1978]

You reading these forums with your eyes open or using the force ?

Average Joe keeps buying a £300+ card because his buddy down the street has a cool pc and his xbox or ps3 sucks compared to it and comes here buys what he can afford and sticks it in his branded office Dell or HP or Gateway pc hoping to make it run all the games his buddy has... and blows up his cheap PSU or the thing wont even POST or beep and wonders why when the card said on the box it would work in his pc, but ofcourse average Joe has no idea what a Watt is and what it meant by min PSU xxx Watts.. Most of this forum is full of average Joes that come here asking us "the people that understand all the tech gobbledigook" and to explain it to them in Average Joe English.. It's like me going into a hospital and watching a brain surgeon work.. I would have no idea what he's talking about or doing...

wow your arrogant and condescending


the world consists of 6 billion people and of that, a 000.% fraction of that fit your stereotype.

 

[Purgatory]

phill1978 I was not trying to be arrogant or condescending... Reality is we are all good at what we know or have trained or learned to know.. What I was stating there if you read it to the last line is we all can't be good at everything and that's why "average Joe" comes to such information forums for help and for assistance in a language he/she will understand.

I'm clearly saying Tech folk are a certain breed of people that understand the workings of a computer better then say a brain surgeon... Want to know why I used the example of brain surgeon ? Well my farther was one till he retired and I never understood the work he did and guess what a guy as smart as him didn't even know how to wire a 3 pin plug, not because he's dumb but it's not his intrest and when he needs a 3 pin plug wiring he would ask me to do it.. You know why because he knows I like and understand all that.. Same when it comes to him using a computer, any time he buys some software that won't work on his PC he would ask me why and in some cases would involve an upgrade be it software or hardware based.

Do you get where i'm coming from now ? Also if I offended anyone in that post, I didn't mean to... Just anyone that has worked in I.T as long as me and has worked with people that require I.T, will tell you it feels like you are talking to a wall when trying to explain for example why their old parallel port based printer won't work on a USB port even when using converters.. What they don't realise is it takes more then a converter to make it work, like drivers that can detect and know how to use the device in the operating system environment they are using.

Okay anyway topic was as 1st post not people bashing .

 

[Sayso]

Your case cooling must be crap

My idles at 35c (fan 24%)and full load hits about 70c Fan 33%)

yes it is, im using a MATX case but it was silent with the 5850 and now its loud and the card runs hot, i watercool so i dont usually have a lot of air blowing around in my case.

Why cant you listen to anyone that has had a different experience than you on the forum and take there point as valid i will never understand.

Im not saying "your" card is hot, im saying mine is.

 

[easyrider]

So your comparing a 5850 with a 6950 in a case with little airflow?

My 6950 runs botter than the 5450 it replaced...

Hang on....Something has to give for the massive increase in performance.

 

[Sayso]

*Slaps head, i give up.



edit..

the 6950 is the direct 5850 replacement by AMD, in there line up and price range...is there a 6 series card i should be comparing your 5450 to ?

 

[jigger]

Reason for that is most people only know how to overclock via the CCC.. I think it's a fair review and extreme overclocks are only done by people intrested in computers and understand how they work. Remember average Joe has no idea what overclocking even is and what it can do for performance.

I liked the review I think it was fair and even when I checked via other respected sites their data seemed to add up... Yes they could have had overclocks over the CCC limits too to compare.. but they are aiming that review at the average Joe.

Hands up who uses CCC to overclock ?

That is a novice overclocking review IMO.

 

[Sayso]

Hands up who uses CCC to overclock ?

That is a novice overclocking review IMO.

It matters what you want to do, i haven't raised voltages on a card since i used rivatuner and an add on. I really dont feel the need to clock my current card (or CPU) to any crazy degree at the moment i just dont need the power to play the current crop of games.

 

[ebilcake]

Selling a HD5 card for HD69** card now is pointless but if you were able to sell before the price drops it was worthwhile.

I managed to get over £450 for both my HD5870's, I didn't really want to sell them but at the time the HD68** series didn't give me much choice, if I tried selling now I would be lucky to get £300.

However I ended up getting a GTX580, considered HD6950 CF but went for the single card solution as I didn't want to deal with crossfire again.

 

[area512003]

Selling a HD5 card for HD69** card now is pointless but if you were able to sell before the price drops it was worthwhile.

if I tried selling now I would be lucky to get £300.

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