Bi-Amp Speakers

kg648

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Hi Guys,

Ive been told that if i bi-amp my speakers it will sound better nothing wrong with the current setup I have at the moment works amazingly well, love it.

I am running Mission M34i's on a Yamaha RX-1065 if i was to bi-amp what other amp would i use? is it worth it?

I have been told bi-wire may or may not sound any different just a waste of money on cable.

Any suggestions would be great.

Thanks,
Karl Glover.
 
Your yamaha actually has a whole bunch of amps in it. And I beleive you can re-purpose a couple of them for use for bi amping. So you would connect your speakers twice to your amp into different outputs, and then do some configs in your amp setup to set it up and then it should work.
 
Thats what i thought, but after reading about bi-wiring i thought it maybe pointless but since you say that i'll order some more cable right away! cheers. :)
 
Oh Sorry misread! so infact if i use two feeds from the speakers i will be bi-amping? even though it is one amplifier? but because it has more than one amp inside it is classed as a bi-amp?
 
kg648 said:
Oh Sorry misread! so infact if i use two feeds from the speakers i will be bi-amping? even though it is one amplifier? but because it has more than one amp inside it is classed as a bi-amp?
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it's not one amp. AV amps actually have many amplifiers in side them. So the term amplifier can refer to the unit in a general sense, but in the terms we are talking here, you could theoretically get another 'amp' (unit, receiver etc) but since you have a all singing all dancing AV amp with multiple built in amps (as they do) you can connect both speakers to the same 'unit' but actually different amps within. This use of 2 amps allows you to biamp. You can also triamp with more amps, but not sure that your receiver supports that.


Not all AV amps can do this feature internally.

At the other end of the scale is a thign called a monobloc which is literally one amp, one channel and you would need 4 of them to biamp HF an LF two way stereo speakers for example.
 
The amp is 7.1 channel, and I'll guess your only using it as a 5.1. ... So there are 2 amp channels going unused.
In the set up menu you should find option to use the 2 spare channels in Bi-amp mode.
Then you buy an extra set of speaker cables, same a bi-wiring.
On the speakers you remove the link plates on the back of the terminals, then connect up the extra set of cables between amp and speakers.

Then the bass drivers in the speakers are driven by one amp and the tweeter by another.
 
9designs2 said:
The amp is 7.1 channel, and I'll guess your only using it as a 5.1. ... So there are 2 amp channels going unused.
In the set up menu you should find option to use the 2 spare channels in Bi-amp mode.
Then you buy an extra set of speaker cables, same a bi-wiring.
On the speakers you remove the link plates on the back of the terminals, then connect up the extra set of cables between amp and speakers.

Then the bass drivers in the speakers are driven by one amp and the tweeter by another.
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Cheers for that gonna give it a try when I get some more speaker cable :)
 
Yeah, well I am umming and arring about if i should or not because for the same cable and banana plugs i have it is going to cost me another £80
 
kg648 said:
Yeah, well I am umming and arring about if i should or not because for the same cable and banana plugs i have it is going to cost me another £80
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Can understand you taking your time. I didnt go the banana plug route just stripped my cable back (think its Cambridge audio ultra100) and screwed it home.
 
aye i never bothered in the past, but after i realised how pretty it looks at the back of amp/speakers never looked back :P

Also i suppose it means i cant loose any strands of cable. ( however i was using the QED Airlocs so maybe a bit OTT )
 
I have the same amp, Yamaha RX-V1065 using a 5.1 set-up and I use the spare to Bi-amp my two front Q-Acoustic 1050i's. Definately makes a difference once you start cranking the volume up.
 
kg648 said:
Ordered cable yesterday came this morning going to try it out tomorrow morning before work i think :)
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Excellent ! Make sure you report back with results mate. I've still to pick up some cable but at the minute I'm trying to make my mind up about changing my speakers (either way the next ones will be bi wire) :)
 
Just being doing some tests this morning, I have to agree with Chong Warrior at low levels you can not notice anything but when you crank the volume up a bit -30dbish you can notice the difference. to compare i quickily disabled/enabled bi-amping and listened to the same part of a song a good few times.

And oh yes, when you have it at this level the improvement is incredible.
 
kg648 said:
Just being doing some tests this morning, I have to agree with Chong Warrior at low levels you can not notice anything but when you crank the volume up a bit -30dbish you can notice the difference. to compare i quickily disabled/enabled bi-amping and listened to the same part of a song a good few times.

And oh yes, when you have it at this level the improvement is incredible.
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:) Great to hear (no pun and all that) :D

Oh and thanks very much for letting me know so quickly mate. Cheers
 
kg648 said:
Just being doing some tests this morning, I have to agree with Chong Warrior at low levels you can not notice anything but when you crank the volume up a bit -30dbish you can notice the difference. to compare i quickily disabled/enabled bi-amping and listened to the same part of a song a good few times.

And oh yes, when you have it at this level the improvement is incredible.
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well it depends if your amp can drive the speakers correctly in the first place.

personally I tested bi-amping with a Rotel 1572 and even on a complete Cyrrus system with monoblocks and i couldn't hear any noticeable difference

so I guess YMMV
 
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