Why are the Sandybridge boards only dual channel??

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Ok, I am a newb to this and its my first build so forgive the question but older boards are running tripple channel DDR3 memory but the new Sandybridge is only running Dual channel DDR3 from what i can see??

Is it still faster than the old?

I thought hyperthreading gave effectivley 6 cores on tripple channel??

Is Tripple coming out?

Thanks..

Be kind.....
 
cause there crap, lol

i think its intel doing there very best to **** customers off changing sockets and memory and cpus and motherboard chip sets so that loads of little crazy people will go buy them for ridiculous amounts of money then come middle of this year it all changes again lol

i mean most people are doing it becuse they like the look of the new UEFI bios`s and better overclocking cpus and lower heat but why couldnt intel use the same technology on the same 1366 socket and save people some money.

that way they wouldnt have cost people loads changing motherboards and memory and what about this UEFI bios couldnt that have been ported over toe x58 motherboards that have more than 3meg of bios flash rom.

they already did it with the asus PQ x58 motherboard so why only them ?

its all business to them though and they are out to make money after all.
 
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S1155 is the replacement for S1156, as such it stays dual channel just like it's predecessor. S2011 is quad channel, which is due to replace S1366 ( tri channel ) later this year.
 
Ok, I am a newb to this and its my first build so forgive the question but older boards are running tripple channel DDR3 memory but the new Sandybridge is only running Dual channel DDR3 from what i can see??

The older triple channel kit you are referring to are the LGA 1366 boards/CPUs. These are technically still the top-end boards and CPUs from Intel and they don't get a replacement until autumn.

The Sandy Bridge CPUs/boards we just had released replace the "mainstream" level LGA 1156 boards and CPUs, which were dual channel. Hence these new boards are dual channel too.

However, in real-world performance Dual channel DDR3 is more than fast enough, so triple channel DDR3 may have more bandwidth available - but it isn't made use of.


Is it still faster than the old?

Well the CPUs are a fair bit faster. Have a read of this review and see how the new CPUs compare to the older i7s in a range of tasks.


I thought hyperthreading gave effectivley 6 cores on tripple channel??

No - these are two very different things.

Hyperthreading is not linked to the memory - it is a CPU technology and will work even if you are just running dual or single channel memory.

Hyperthreading produces two threads (or logical cores) per physical core. So a quad core i7 will run eight threads. However, this does not mean that performance doubles. In CPU-heavy multithreaded tasks a hyperthreaded CPU can be up to 25% faster than an identical CPU with hyperthreading disabled. However it is usually less than this. In applications that don't use more than four threads (like the vast majority of games) hyperthreading provides no performance benefit.


Is Tripple coming out?

Yes - Sandy Bridge CPUs and boards that support triple channel memory (and quad channel supposedly) are coming out in Q3. However, unless you are running stuff that is particularly memory heavy then I wouldn't suggest waiting based purely on the higher maximum memory bandwidth offered by these new chips.
 
ok, so is the new Dual channel 1155 Sandybridge faster than the Tripple channel 1366 for example?

I was going to buy 1366 I7 but when i heard Sandybridge was coming out i thought i better wait. Dont know which is better..
 
Yes - it is faster for almost all tasks (have a look at the review link I posted above), it also overclocks better, is cooler and uses less power.

I wouldn't get too hung up about triple channel vs dual channel - dual channel is more than fast enough for most applications.
 
If people are mainly going to buy LGA1155 SB, then who will be buying the LGA2011 SB and what prices can we expect for the high end SB? Also will it be offering 6/8 cores by default?
 
Idots like me I guess WingZero3 . :D

I have not missed a chipset or CPU revision in 17 years. True I benchmark for a hobby so it sort of makes some kind of weird logic. But in truth I just like the tech, get all happy when I have new tech to bench or play with.
 
If people are mainly going to buy LGA1155 SB, then who will be buying the LGA2011 SB

Good question - most likely people run multithreaded applications that can make good use of a SB hex/octo core.

I reckon a lot of the people who are sitting on nahalem (or even Core 2 Quad) systems will sit with what we have until Ivy Bridge rolls around - unless a few killer-apps that make use of all the CPU power appear.

and what prices can we expect for the high end SB? Also will it be offering 6/8 cores by default?

I believe the lower-end will still be quad cores - but further up the price range there will definitely be hex cores. I'm not sure if there will be octo cores - but its a pretty good bet that there will be some.

As for prices - expect to pay i7 money. That means £250 for the basic quad with prices of the higher CPU models going all the way up to £750. It will be interesting to see what price the lowest-speed hex core is.
 
Ok, I can buy either system for basically the same money, so why do i buy?? Top end 1366 or the 1155 base model....

It seems the base model will probably out perform the top end 1366 anyway..
 
The PC will be used for various tasks. I want to be able to game on it, Surf the web, Use Autocad, Lots of media streaming to other PCs and i also want the other pcs to back up over the home network to a seperate drive inside. A real all rounder. we have 4 other PC's in my house.

Graphics wise i will start by using an old card that i have that has been adaquate for my use so far a 5670. I know its very basic but i do intend to get an upgrade.

I have just got a HAF X 932Case, 2 x 1TB Samsung spinpoint F3 HDD.
I intend to get a OCZ Vertexe 2E 120 gb SSD for boot.

just got to sort the rest.

Whats your thoughts??
 
In that case I would definitely get a sandy bridge.

If autocad is one of your main uses then I would pick up the i7 2600K. However, if its more gaming and media playback/streaming then the i5 2500K will be just as good and cost you £85 less.
 
It makes you think there is something wrong with the 1156 and intel aren't very happy with it so they release a new socket but I guess it's only for marketing purposes - to make money.
 
Yes, i think thats the way i am leaning. So the I7 2600K is a quad core and does the hyperthreading. Right.....

I havent miss understood..

Cheers
 
Yes, i think thats the way i am leaning. So the I7 2600K is a quad core and does the hyperthreading. Right.....

Exactly. True quad core, hyperthreading enabled, 8 threads.

It also has an unlocked multiplier and seems to reliably overclock to at least 4.5GHz.
 
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