CES 2011 TV Roundup

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First Up

Sony :

http://www.engadget.com/2011/01/05/sonys-2011-bravia-lineup-includes-27-new-hdtvs/

SONY REDEFINES TELEVISION WITH NEW BRAVIA LCD HDTV LINE
New Models Drive Innovation With Unprecedented Access To Internet Content, Skype, 3D, and Striking Industrial Design

LAS VEGAS (CES BOOTH #14200), Jan. 5, 2011 –Sony's new BRAVIA® HDTV lineup is redefining the television category again. Building on its broad line of innovative 3D and Internet connected TVs, Sony's 2011 BRAVIA LCD HDTV line include 16 new 3D capable models and 22 Internet connected models. In all, the line features 27 new models ranging in screen size from 22 inches to 65 inches (measured diagonally).
"Sony's BRAVIA televisions deliver a complete entertainment experience – from instant access to online video content to the immersiveness of 3D theatrical features, sports, and video games, we're redefining the form and function of television," said Chris Fawcett, vice president for Sony's television business. "While innovative features are important, rest assured that Sony's hallmark picture quality and unmatched industrial design remains intact, making BRAVIA the perfect centerpiece for any home décor."
Lean Back and Surf
Delivering the entertainment you want, when you want it, the 2011 BRAVIA line offers 22 models that deliver instant access to online entertainment. Whether connecting to a home broadband network via Wi-Fi (802.11n) or Ethernet connection, compatible models offer access to over 40 free and premium movies, video, and music services through the BRAVIA Internet Video platform including Sony's Video On Demand and Music Unlimited powered by Qriocity™, as well as Netflix™, Pandora®, HuluPlus™, Amazon Video on Demand, YouTube™, Slacker® Internet Radio, Crackle, Blip.tv.
Video On Demand powered by Qriocity is a premium video streaming service with instant access to Hollywood blockbusters, and Music Unlimited powered by Qriocity is a cloud-based, streaming music service which gives music lovers access at anytime to a constantly expanding catalog of over six million global music tracks from major labels.
A number of the new BRAVIA models will also have Skype™ embedded. After connecting the Sony camera and microphone (CMU-BR100, sold separately) users can enjoy free widescreen Skype-to-Skype video calls with friends and family from the comfort of their living rooms. Users can also make voice calls while simultaneously watching TV.
The new connected models also make certain users will never have to wonder what that song playing during their favorite movie, TV program, or commercial is again. Sony's new Track ID powered by Gracenote, analyzes any selected song playing back on the TV, identifies it, and provides artist, album, and song information.
Expanding 3D
The 2011 BRAVIA line includes 16 new 3D models that deliver outstanding performance with Sony's active shutter technology. Building on last year, the new line offers affordable 3D entry models all the way up to Sony's top-of-the-line flagship models that pack best-in-class picture quality with every feature for the complete entertainment experience.
Improvements to this year's 3D models include panel drive enhancements that deliver quicker response time helping to reduce crosstalk, 5:5 pull down for a more realistic cinematic movie experience, built-in 3D emitters on all 3D models.
Expanding the 3D content users can view, the new BRAVIA 3D capable models can display 3D images taken with Sony's new Cyber-shot cameras like the DSC-WX9 via USB input.

Driving Picture Quality
From full HD 1080p Blu-ray Disc, to broadcast HD, to user-generated Internet Video content, processing of incoming content is essential for an excellent picture. To this end, Sony has upgraded the BRAVIA processing power with the new X-Reality PRO and X-Reality Engine digital video processors.
The X-Reality PRO Engine is a two-chip digital video processor that optimizes high definition content, compressed HD signals, standard definition, and other sources including low resolution Internet content. Utilizing a vast database of "ideal" signal patterns developed by analyzing and indexing and enormous library of film and video, the X-Reality PRO Engine compares incoming signals pixel-by-pixel with ideal scenes to display vivid and detailed images.
Additionally, the engine's multi-frame analysis helps create missing resolution and Sony's Super Bit Mapping technology incorporates 14 bit up-scaling, processing and pixel mapping to smooth gradation and improve the quality of low-tone pictures.
Found in select models, the single chip X-Reality Engine utilizes Sony's Intelligent Image Enhancer technology to deliver outstanding picture quality. Incoming video is separated into constituent parts (outline, texture, and color/contrast), and the appropriate image enhancement is added to each part. The engine also uses Intelligent MPEG Noise Reduction to automatically detect the incoming sources and noise level to apply the appropriate amount of noise reduction for each scene.
Also new for select models is Sony's Intelligent Peak LED Backlight which uses full array local dimming for deeper blacks, while also boosting brightness in lighter scenes creating incredible on-screen contrast, while Sony's OptiContrast panel elevates the picture to the front surface of the TV and creates a dark background for rich, vibrant, high contrast picture even in well-lit rooms.
Sony's MotionFlow™ XR builds on previous versions of the company's motion compensation technology and helps to reduce blur caused by quick camera movements, enhancing sharpness and creating a clearer picture.

Simplifying User Interface and Functionality
Select new BRAVIA models feature Sony's improved user interface that delivers uninterrupted viewing and intuitive navigation. Retaining the intuitive operation of the award-winning Xross Bar (XMB™), the new UI provides uninterrupted viewing by disseminating the video and placing key menu functions and favorite along the bottom and side of the picture frame.
Additionally, the models feature an improved remote control and offer control via the Media Remote application on iPhone, iPod Touch or Android mobile device. The app, which can be downloaded from the Apple App Store or the Android Marketplace, functions as a full remote with keyboard, allows online content search, and playback.

So in summary, highlights :

Enhanced Online Service, more TVs across the range now featured integrated wifi rather than just wifi capable.

Skype support and video calling supported with optional Sony Camera & Mic

Built in 3D Support on all 3D Models, rather than being merely "3D capable" and requiring an optional 3D Transmitter

New X-Reality Engine to optimize PQ of Internet Video

Support for Media Remote App for Iphone / Android enabling full keyboard for web browsing from your phone (very neat)

New Models :

The XBR-HX929 models are also custom installation friendly with key features such as rear IR-input and a two-way RS232c connection for easier integration with third-party control systems.
Other XBR-HX929 Series features include:
· Brilliant Full HD (1080p) picture quality with full-array local dimming LED backlight
· Sleek Monolithic Design with OptiContrast Panel Technology
· Integrated Wi-Fi (802.11n)
· Skype™ ready in 720p high definition
· BRAVIA Internet Video and Qriocity
· X-Reality™ PRO Engine
· MotionFlow™ XR 960
· Rear two-way IR inputs and two-way RS232C control
· Screen sizes include 65-inch (XBR-65HX292, which is available in August 2011), 55-inch (XBR-55HX929), and 46-inch (XBR-46HX929)

Other new BRAVIA models include:

BRAVIA® HX820-Series LED LCD 3D Capable HDTV
Available in May
· Brilliant Full HD (1080p) picture quality with Dynamic Edge LED backlight
· Sleek Monolithic Design with OptiContrast Panel Technology
· Integrated Wi-Fi™ (802.11n)
· Skype™ ready in 720p high definition
· BRAVIA Internet Video and Qriocity™
· X-Reality™ PRO Engine
· MotionFlow™ XR 480
· Screen sizes include 55-inch (KDL-55HX820), and 46-inch (KDL-46HX820)

BRAVIA® HX729-Series LED LCD 3D Capable HDTV
Available in May
· Brilliant Full HD (1080p) picture quality with Dynamic Edge LED backlight
· X-Reality™ PRO Engine
· MotionFlow™ XR 480
· Integrated Wi-Fi™ (802.11n)
· Skype™ ready in 720p high definition
· BRAVIA Internet Video and Qriocity™
· Rear two-way IR inputs and two-way RS232C control
· Screen sizes include 65-inch (KDL-65HX729), 55-inch (KDL-55HX729), and 46-inch (KDL-46HX729)

BRAVIA® NX720-Series LED LCD 3D Capable HDTV
Available in May
· Brilliant Full HD (1080p) picture quality with Dynamic Edge LED backlight
· Sleek Monolithic Design with OptiContrast Panel Technology
· Integrated Wi-Fi™ (802.11n)
· Skype™ ready in 720p high definition
· BRAVIA Internet Video and Qriocity™
· MotionFlow™ XR 240
· X-Reality™ Engine
· Screen sizes include 60-inch (KDL-60NX720), 55-inch (KDL-55NX720), and 46-inch (KDL-46NX720)

BRAVIA® EX720-Series LED LCD 3D Capable HDTV
Available in February
· Brilliant Full HD (1080p) picture quality with Edge LED backlight
· X-Reality™ Engine
· MotionFlow™ XR 240
· Wi-Fi™ ready (USB wireless LAN adapter sold separately)
· Skype™ ready in 720p high definition
· BRAVIA Internet Video and Qriocity™
· Screen sizes include 60-inch (KDL-60EX720, which is available in April), 55-inch (KDL-55EX720), 46-inch (KDL-46EX720), 40-Inch (KDL-40EX720), and 32-inch (KDL-32EX720)

BRAVIA® EX620-Series LED LCD HDTV
Available in February
· Brilliant Full High Definition (1080p) picture quality with Edge LED backlight
· X-Reality™ Engine
· MotionFlow™ 120
· Wi-Fi™ ready (USB wireless LAN adapter sold separately)
· Skype™ ready in 720p high definition
· BRAVIA Internet Video and Qriocity™
· Screen sizes include 55-inch (KDL-55EX620), 46-inch (KDL-46EX620), and 40-Inch (KDL-40EX620)

BRAVIA® EX520-Series LED LCD HDTV
Available in February
· Brilliant Full HD (1080p) picture quality with Edge LED backlight
· X-Reality™ Engine
· Wi-Fi™ ready (USB wireless LAN adapter sold separately)
· Skype™ ready in 720p high definition
· BRAVIA Internet Video and Qriocity™
· Energy saving Presence Sensor minimize power consumption
· Screen sizes include 46-inch (KDL-46EX520), 40-inch (KDL-40EX520), 32-inch (KDL-32EX520)

BRAVIA® BX420-Series HDTV
Available in February
· Brilliant Full HD (1080p) picture quality with CCFL backlight
· Five HD Inputs to connect multiple HD devices
· USB input for photo, music and video playback
· Scene select customized picture and sound settings
· Ambient Light Sensor
· Screen sizes include 46-inch (KDL-46BX420), 40-inch (KDL-40BX420), and 32-inch (KDL-32BX420)

BRAVIA® BX320-Series HDTV
Available in February
· Amazing High Definition (720p) picture quality with CCFL backlight
· Five HD Inputs to connect multiple HD devices
· USB input for photo, music and video playback
· Scene select customized picture and sound settings
· Ambient Light Sensor
· Screen sizes include 32-inch (KDL-32BX320), and 22-inch (KDL-22BX320)

So we have the HX Cinematic Range, with the HX929, HX820, HX729 replacing this years HX903, HX803 and HX703 repsectively.

We have the Network Range, so far only including the NX720 which presumably replaces the NX503, NX703, NX713, NX803 range from this years range.

And lastly a bunch of BX and EX models from the budget Essential Range which i dont think any of us enthusiasts will be interested in.

The best of the bunch is the top of the range HX929, but at a predicted price of over £2k for the 46 " model alone, its going to have to be supreme to make it worth the extra over the competition.
 
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Next Up :

Panasonic

http://www.hdtvtest.co.uk/news/panasonic-vt30-gt30-st30-3d-tv-20110106980.htm

Panasonic has unveiled its second generation of Viera 3D plasma TV displays at the Consumer Electronics Show (CES) 2011 in Las Vegas today, namely the entry-level Panasonic ST30 series, the mid-range Panasonic GT30 series, and the flagship Panasonic VT30 series. At a press conference held at the Venetian hotel, the Japanese TV manufacturer claimed that its new line of plasma 3D TVs boasts a number of improvements over last year’s models which were already critically acclaimed.
This time last year, the Panasonic VT25 3D TV was crowned the “Best Of Show Product” at CES 2010. Not resting on their laurels, Panasonic engineers have sought to improve the picture quality on the new 2011 3D HDTV models even further through the following means:
Reducing crosstalk with an updated video processing circuitry;
Achieving deeper blacks using Infinite Black Pro 2 plasma panels with lower precharge, as well as better ambient light filters; and
Boosting light output by up to 30% – necessary to counter the darkening effects of 3D glasses – by increasing the luminous efficiency of the plasma cells (which also happens to reduce energy consumption).

So, the new 2011 3D Models

We have the VT30

The top-of-the-range Panasonic VT30 series comes in two screen sizes: 55 inches and 65 inches. Both will feature a single-sheet-of-glass design which gives a frameless appearance, Infinite Black Pro 2 NeoPDP panel, THX certification, 600Hz subfield motion technology, four HDMI inputs, three USB ports, an RS232C/ ISF connection, the new Viera Connect IPTV (internet-protocol television) platform, and of course full HD 3D capabilities. Scheduled to ship in April/ May 2011 (price unknown yet). Available in 55 inch and 65 inch

Middle of the 3D Range GT30

One rung down from the VT30, the Panasonic GT30 series of plasma 3D displays features a slimmer bezel, THX certification and full HD 3D capabilities, but only Infinite Black Pro panel and no RS232 port for ISF interfacing. The Panasonic GT30 comes in four screen sizes: 50 inch, 55 inch, 60 inch, 65 inch

And Entry Level ST30

The entry-level Panasonic ST30 series represents the most affordable range of plasma 3DTV sets from the company, but sports a slightly thicker bezel, and is not THX-certified. Six screen sizes are available, ranging from 42 to 65 inches: 42 inch, 46 inch, 50 inch, 55 inch, 60 inch, 65 inch

Bit disappointed personally that the 46 " model is now confined to entry level only. The Top of the Range is a minimum size of 55 " and the middle of the range 50 "

I want a top of the range TV with the best PQ, but i don't see why i should have to have a 55 " TV. It would be simply too big for our living room. Heres hoping they introduce some smaller models :(

Highlights of the new specs below:

http://www2.panasonic.com/webapp/wc...1122857748&surfModel=Content01052011122857748

Panasonic’s Plasma Full HD 3D HDTVs are now available in the following screen sizes- 42-inch class (41.6” measured diagonally); 46-inch class (46” measured diagonally); 50-inch class (49.9” measured diagonally); two new screen sizes-the 55-inch class (55.1” measured diagonally); and the 60-inch class ( 60.1” measured diagonally)- and 65-inch class (64.7” measured diagonally). The new additions to the Panasonic Full HD 3D family are two LCD/LED HDTVs, a 37-inch class (37” measured diagonally) and a 32-inch (31.5” measured diagonally).

“Everyone at Panasonic is extremely proud of the critical acclaim and acceptance afforded our 2010 Full HD 3D sets,” said Henry Hauser, Vice President, Panasonic, Merchandising, Display Group. “We’re exceptionally pleased that the VT25 series won a number of best of awards in 2010, not the least of which was the prestigious Best in Show at last years CES. Never one to stand on laurels, the 2011 line builds upon that critical success while increasing the model line-up to include two new Plasma screen sizes, and expanding the 3D experience to select LED models.

“Panasonic is committed to providing the consumer with the highest quality entertainment options and we firmly believe that both Plasma and LCD/LED are terrific technologies. The choice of which technology to purchase depends on a number of factors, including viewing environment and viewing choices. The consumer now has a choice of buying a Full HD 3D TV, whether Plasma or LCD/LED, from the industry leader. Furthermore, as majority of reviewers pointed out, Panasonic’s 3D HDTVs also produce superior 2D pictures.”

Panasonic’s proprietary IPTV functionality is expanded and enhanced for 2011, with a new identifying name, VIERA Connect™1, reflecting the transition from the walled garden approach of VIERA Cast to the interactive and inter-connected philosophy behind the new Internet enabled platform. VIERA Cast’s popular sites, including Netflix™, Amazon VOD™, You Tube™, Pandora, Twitter, Bloomberg News, a weather channel and Skype™ continue on VIERA Connect and are joined by a host of exciting features and apps, all optimized for the best possible user experience. Incorporated in VIERA Connect are such apps as CinemaNow, Hulu Plus, Napster, Facebook and popular sports sites including MLB.TV, MLS Matchday Live, NBA Game Time, and NHL Game Center2.

All Panasonic VIERA Full HD 3D HDTVs include 3D VIERA Image Viewer™ a function for easy viewing of digital still photos (both in 2D/3D) and the ability to play back AVCHD 2D video and 3D video recorded on SD card.

“As we enter into the new year, there is little doubt that 3D is here to stay and Panasonic is uniquely positioned to provide the ultimate home 3D experience for the consumer,” added Hauser. “Panasonic provides an end-to-end 3D solution, from our highly regarded HDTVs to the introduction of the first consumer 3D camcorder, 3D capable digital still cameras, 3D Blu-ray Disc players, professional Full HD 3D displays, including the 103-inch Plasma, and Panasonic Hollywood Laboratory, a Hollywood based facility where many of the current 3D Blu-ray discs are authored.”
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PANASONIC 2011 FULL HD 3D HDTVs
Full HD 3D Plasma
For 2011 Panasonic introduced three VIERA Full HD 3D Plasma model lines, the VT30 series,GT30 and ST30 series. Panasonic’s Full HD 3D televisions provide full 1080p resolution to both the right and left eye, thereby giving the viewer the definitive 3D entertainment experience.

The top-of-the-line VIERA VT30 series consists of two models- the 65-inch class (64.7” measured diagonally) TC-P65VT30 and the 55-inch class ( 55.1” measured diagonally) TC-P55VT30. The VT30 models are distinguished by a one sheet glass design, giving the TVs a beautiful sleek new design element. In addition to providing 3D viewing, the VT30 series of VIERA HDTVs features the VIERA Connect service; Skype video calling; Wi-Fi ready including LAN (through USB port); 3D VIERA Image Viewer™ to view JPEG 2D digital still images, 3D digital still images and both 2D & 3D HD video recorded on an SD Memory Card; VIERA Link; a PC input; three USB Ports; THX certification3; 24p playback; 600Hz subfield (produces 1080 lines of moving picture resolution); four HDMI connections; DLNA connector; fast switching phosphors; a RS232C/ISF connection and an Infinite Black Pro 2 panel. The new and improved Infinite Black Pro 2 Panel raises the luminous efficiency while minimizing pre-discharge, resulting in even more subtle, delicate blacks, in both dark and bright environments than last year’s Infinite Black Pro Panel provided. One pair of Full HD 3D eyewear is included with the VT30 series.

The VIERA GT30 series features four models, the TC-P65GT30, a 65-inch class (64.7” measured diagonally); the TC-P60GT30, a 60-inch class (60.1” measured diagonally); the TC-P55GT30, a 55-inch class ( 55.1” measured diagonally ) and the TC-P50GT30, a 50-inch class (49.9” measured diagonally). The GT30 series features an Infinite Black 2 Panel; VIERA Connect, Wi-Fi ready with included LAN (through USB port); Skype Video calling; 3D VIERA Image Viewer™ to view JPEG 2D digital still images, 3D digital still images and both 2D & 3D HD video recorded on an SD Memory card; DLNA; VIERA link; PC input; 4 HDMI connections; 3 USB ports; THX certification3; fast switching phosphors and a 600Hz Sub-field Drive.

The VIERA ST30 series introduces six screen sizes, from 42-inches to 65-inches, to the Panasonic family of Full HD 3D HDTVs. Featured in this series are the TC-P65ST30, a 65-inch class (64.7” measured diagonally); TC-P60ST30, a 60-inch class ( 60.1” measured diagonally); TC-P55ST30, a 55-inch class (55.1” measured diagonally); TC-P50ST30, a 50-inch class (49.9” measured diagonally); TC-P46ST30, a 46-inch class (46”measured diagonally) and the TC-P42ST30, a 42” class (41.6”measured diagonally). The ST30 Full HD 3D HDTVs present a feature package that includes the Infinite Black 2 Panel; VIERA Connect, Wi-Fi Ready with LAN (through USB port); Skype Video calling; 3D VIERA Image Viewer™ to view JPEG 2D digital still images, 3D digital still images and both 2D & 3D HD video recorded on an SD Memory card; DLNA; VIERA link; 3 HDMI connections; 2 USB ports; fast Switching Phosphor; 600Hz Sub-field drive.

Full HD 3D LCD-LED
For the 2011 Full HD 3D line-up, Panasonic has extended the immersive 3D technology to its LED line, with two models, the TC-L37DT30, a 37-inch class (37”measured diagonally) and the TC-L32DT30, a 32-inch class (31.5” measured diagonally). Both models employ an IPS Alpha LED panel – assuring a wide viewing angle with almost no picture degradation, and improved motion response; VIERA Connect, Wi-Fi ready (includes LAN Adaptor); 3D VIERA Image Viewer™ to view JPEG 2D digital still images, 3D digital still images and both 2D & 3D HD video recorded on an SD Memory card; DLNA; VIERA link; 4 HDMI connections; 3 USB ports; a PC input; ISF Pro Setting Menu; 240Hz with Motion Picture Pro 5, providing fast motion picture response necessary to produce crisp, cross-talk free 3D images and a lower power consumption.
 
Samsung :

Are you ready to look your existing 3D HDTV in the face (yeah, the one you purchased a fortnight ago) and tell it that aren't enticed in the least by Samsung's latest? Good luck with that. As it tends to do each year, Sammy is busting out a barrage of new releases here at CES, and is kicking things off with a smattering of big-screen television sets. Up first is the high-end LED 8000 series, comprised of 46-, 55-, 60- and 65-inch models. The UND8000 line boasts a restyled, 0.2-inch wide metal bezel, and there's plenty of Smart TV enhancements to gawk over. You'll get a full web browser, media search panel, an advanced recommendation feature and a Touch Control TV remote (complete with 3-inch screen) to dictate it all. The most interesting feature, however, is likely the support for Bluetooth 3D glasses; rather than relying on IR, the Bluetooth approach promises to improve on the line-of-sight, range and interference issues that some struggle with today. Other specifications across the line include 240Hz de-jitter technology, a 1080p panel, inbuilt WiFi and support for Skype.

Moving right along, the D7000 series arrives as a threesome, offering buyers the choice of 46-, 55- or 60-inches of diagonal screen space. You'll still find a frighteningly thin 0.2-inch thick bezel here, Bluetooth 3D Active Glasses support, 3D playback, a 1080p panel, inbuilt WiFi and Skype support, but you'll miss out on the Micro Dimming Plus and the snazzy universal remote. If you'd prefer to go the plasma route, the D8000 crew would be happy to oblige. Available in 51-, 59- and 64-inch screen sizes, these 1080p 3D sets were designed with a slimmer bezel that offers up to a full inch increase in viewing screen size over last year's models, and each one measures just 1.5-inch thick. You'll also get a Touch Control TV remote thrown in, a 0.001ms response time, USB ConnectShare Movie, inbuilt WiFi, DLNA streaming support and the ability to Skype over your TV if you buy an optional webcam. Stepping down a notch, there's the D6500 line, which is offered in 51- and 59-inch sizes and simply trims down on a few of the more advanced features. We're still waiting to hear back on MSRPs, but you can expect each and every one of these to hit US retailers in the first half of the year.


http://www.engadget.com/2011/01/05/samsung-touts-bluetooth-3d-support-on-led-8000-7000-hdtv-line/
 
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Bit disappointed personally that the 46 " model is now confined to entry level only. The Top of the Range is a minimum size of 55 " and the middle of the range 50 "

I want a top of the range TV with the best PQ, but i don't see why i should have to have a 55 " TV. It would be simply too big for our living room. Heres hoping they introduce some smaller models :(

These sizes are for the US market. I believe that there is some show set for next month either in the UK or Europe where Panasonic will show the smaller screens for release over here. So expect to see VT/GT in 42 & 46 sizes. The same thing happened last year.

I'm also hoping to see V & G series screens as i don't think i could afford the 3D version, but may go that route if the screen is better.

Having seen the CES shots of the new line up i quite like the shape of the screens, but i hate the stand that they have for all their screens this year. Just look so cheap.
 
Interesting information :), anything from LG?


Press Release Here :

http://www.engadget.com/2011/01/05/lgs-ces-2011-hd-lineup-smarttv-platform-network-blu-ray-playe/


Going back slightly, i really think samsung have missed a trick with their new 9 series LCD.

They have a dedicated touch screen type tablet affair that can be used as a remote. But surely it would have been much better to follow Sony's lead and offer an Apple / Android app for your existing tablet ?

Who wants to spend £1000s on a new TV, to then have to spend several hundred on the remote ?

I love the idea of controlling the TV with my ipad, can't wait for more info on the Sony sets and UK pricing.

LG going with passive glasses for 3D is interesting however. Wonder who will follow ....
 
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LG have been the one to watch recently, and I hope Sony resolve the terrible input latency on their recent sets.
 
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Think its worth holding off buying a 32" HDTV til the new stuff comes out in April/May? Want to use it for PC/Console stuff and whats out there this generation isnt great when you have to consider input lag...

ps3ud0 :cool:
 
Current generation stuff is fine.

You're best off holding for another month or so when they start clearing the old models out and reduce them to clear. Pick up the TV you want cheaper, rather than waiting for one that has bunch of extra letters and numbers in its name and specs, and maybe 1 / 2% actual imrprovement in PQ.

Usually unless the new set has a specific feature that the old one doesnt, just get the old one and save yourself the money.
 
Press Release Here :

http://www.engadget.com/2011/01/05/lgs-ces-2011-hd-lineup-smarttv-platform-network-blu-ray-playe/


Going back slightly, i really think samsung have missed a trick with their new 9 series LCD.

They have a dedicated touch screen type tablet affair that can be used as a remote. But surely it would have been much better to follow Sony's lead and offer an Apple / Android app for your existing tablet ?

Who wants to spend £1000s on a new TV, to then have to spend several hundred on the remote ?

I love the idea of controlling the TV with my ipad, can't wait for more info on the Sony sets and UK pricing.

LG going with passive glasses for 3D is interesting however. Wonder who will follow ....

I thought i read 8 series and above it comes with the remote which is like a ipod/sgs, tbh samsung have the best looking tellys again, the 8000 range with the brushed steel is an awesome look, i was hoping panny would follow, but it looks like they have stuck to bland black plastic again.

I also see sony have learned from the first round, they need to incorporate the 3d transmitter not sell it seperatly, hopefully with all the smaller screen 3D tellys coming, it will make it more accessable to the main stream, we've already discussed tho which sizes we'll be ordering and 37'' will be the smallest.
 
Current generation stuff is fine.

You're best off holding for another month or so when they start clearing the old models out and reduce them to clear. Pick up the TV you want cheaper, rather than waiting for one that has bunch of extra letters and numbers in its name and specs, and maybe 1 / 2% actual imrprovement in PQ.

Usually unless the new set has a specific feature that the old one doesnt, just get the old one and save yourself the money.
Cheers - that makes a lot of sense...

Im after the Samsung LE32C530 after I found out how poor the latest Sonys were (would love a Sony KDL32EX403)

ps3ud0 :cool:
 
I thought i read 8 series and above it comes with the remote which is like a ipod/sgs, tbh samsung have the best looking tellys again, the 8000 range with the brushed steel is an awesome look, i was hoping panny would follow, but it looks like they have stuck to bland black plastic again.

I also see sony have learned from the first round, they need to incorporate the 3d transmitter not sell it seperatly, hopefully with all the smaller screen 3D tellys coming, it will make it more accessable to the main stream, we've already discussed tho which sizes we'll be ordering and 37'' will be the smallest.

indeed some sources are quoting it comes with the 8 series as well

http://www.which.co.uk/technology/tv-and-dvd/guides/tvs-at-ces-2011/samsung-smart-tv/

Must be a UK market thing as i believe the press release i had was probably aimed for a more US centred audience.

Good that there is an app download possible as well as the touch screen remote. That's more like it.

Just wish samsung would sort their QC out. AVForums is full of people with issues, and i myself have experienced their poor quality with the capacitors failing after barely 3 years.
 
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indeed some sources are quoting it comes with the 8 series as well

http://www.which.co.uk/technology/tv-and-dvd/guides/tvs-at-ces-2011/samsung-smart-tv/

Must be a UK market thing as i believe the press release i had was probably aimed for a more US centred audience.

Good that there is an app download possible as well as the touch screen remote. That's more like it.

Just wish samsung would sort their QC out. AVForums is full of people with issues, and i myself have experienced their poor quality with the capacitors failing after barely 3 years.

The Qc is what puts me off as well, i never had a problem with my old r86 lcd, but having seen lots that do im not sure i could trust buyng one, i would love the new d8000 series plasma though if had a good PQ as it looks superb.
 
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