Cyborg R.A.T 7

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Thought I would make a comment regarding the above as when I searched not much came up.

First things first it's going to take some getting used to, this tends to be the norm with any new input peripheral though..muscle memory gets shot and you feel like an infant handling a rattle for the first time. Despite this I have gotten rather comfortable with it much faster than I normally would a new device. Thanks no-doubt in part to the adjust-ability of the damn thing.

I left the stock low profile soft touch palm rest on, moved the thumb rest angle ever so slightly out, knocked the palm rest and thumb rest back a few notches and left the full weight in. I initially put the pinky rest on but did not like it so much. I put the stock back on but have since returned to using the pinky rest after getting to grips with the feel and fine tuning the thumb rest location. It now feels perfect and very comfortable and very stable.

The overall quality IMO is high. Some people complain about plasticity feeling but it's partly constructed of well.....plastic. Expected, no? It feels solid, the soft touch finish is perfect and the actual switching on the buttons/wheels are solid, direct and has just the right amount of feedback.

It glides as if on water with my Razer Destructor, even though the Roccat Kone it replaces has some wear so comparisons are tough...but it feels much smoother than when the Kone was new, maybe not so much as smoother....just lighter to the touch. (Side note - Roccat can sit on it and spin from now on in, no more products from them for me)

I've heard/read that it won't track on shiny/glass surfaces but that seems normal for modern laser mice anyway? Tracks perfectly on the above mentioned pad.

The software is straight forward enough if a little clunky. The macro sections look configurable enough for more funky keystrokes/actions.

The precision aims works as expected although I did have to bring the thumb-rest back perhaps a little bit further than I would like to get a good purchase on the shiny red button without it feeling awkward to depress + aim. I'm not sure how much use I will get out of it, I can see myself using it more for precision cursor work outside of games (Like Photoshop) than for sniping...maybe I just need to try it and get a feel for it. I am more of a one DPI guy and changes tend to throw me off. Perhaps I can hone the system and make myself better overall with it, who knows.

The vertical scroll wheel has soft notches and the middle click requires little force to actuate but not so little you are going to accidently click it. The back/forward buttons are solid and are probably the parts which attract the "plasticy" attention. They do click when pressed but from initial use and playing the construction looks sound.

The horizontal scroll is all metal, has a similar soft notching to it as the regular mouse wheel and my only one complaint is that it is perhaps a little low in the housing. I think if it was any higher you might run the risk of accidentally moving it in your palm, I think it's just another muscle memory/familiarisation thing. It's certainly not a pronounced an issue now as I type this as I first thought it might be when I un-boxed it.

The mode button was a little hard to push without tilting the mouse over a little but the mechanism might loosen some over time. It's the most resistant button on the mouse and this might well be by design. I certainly wont be changing modes mid-use so it's not an issue for me. Not at a speed which requires fast/easy pressing anyway. Note that it is easier to actuate with the pinky rest on, it provides a natural place to counter against while pushing. The mode button is at a near 90 degreed angle which is the reason it does not have much resistance behind when smashing.

The other downside to the mode button location is that unless you are sitting quite upright above the mouse which is below you then you are not going to easily see which mode is activated (red/blue/pink illumination). If it were down to me I would have had the DPI LEDs change to the same colour. They are on the opposite side of the mode button and easily visible.

So far, no major gripes, anything I do have a niggle about will hopefully be dispelled through usage.

To summarise:

+ Physical customisation is well worth it
+ Solid, stable feel
+ Good wheel/button feedback and solid actuation
+ Looks
+ Excellent tracking, smooth use on a proper mat and full control of the 4 DPI/precision aim settings (25 > 5600)

- Mode button is a little tricky to activate, mode might be hard to see at a glance
- If you have it and are used to using there is no mouse-wheel tilt but the additional x axis wheel can replace it's function.
- Software is not the most polished in appearance/layout/usability but the core functionality seems adequate

Tips:

Revisit customisation options after getting use to the device. What I did not like at first I did after some use.

If something does not feel quite right play with it. I fully expect to tweak where I have moved things and what options I have as I get some real usage time in my common games/apps.
 
Can I ask if you did anything to get the horizontal scroll wheel to work? I've got the R.A.T.9 so the same as yours but wireless. I've got the software/drivers installed but couldn't find a section to map that scroll wheel.
 
Was looking at these when I built my rig, don't need a mouse like it though but good to see a well written review. I suppose the ultimate question for things like these is - do you think its worth the money? and from your review seems you do think so.
 
Was looking at these when I built my rig, don't need a mouse like it though but good to see a well written review. I suppose the ultimate question for things like these is - do you think its worth the money? and from your review seems you do think so.

Is it cheap? Not overly. Do I think it represents value? Close enough.

It's something I will use almost every day. Spending a bit more on something so critical to my PC usage gets somewhat of a free pass when it comes to price....to an extent. At that price point it's a no compromise purchase really, if there was anything about it which I thought was a compromise I would not be happy, however at a more 'consumery' type price point (eg, well under half) I might not be so fussed.

For comparison I spent what some would consider a small fortune on Sennheiser HD650s. But they get daily use, are rock solid and have lasted years.
 
janp - I rebound Left/Right scrolling to Left Arrow and Right arrow keystrokes. If I bind the horizontal wheel in-game then it appears as left/right arrow which also happens to work as horizontal scroll in my web browser.

See below:

rat7_xwheelbinds.jpg
 
Hi,

I just bought this mouse and everything is working.
My system is a XP 32 bit....

But my sidescroll/thumbscroll does not work at all, not in browsers, not in documents, not in game....

I suspect its due to the software since I have not installed it correctly.
I dont know at all....giving it new commands in the programming software doenst help either...
 
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I've got the 7.

Honestly I love it. Any mouse spec thread and I'll be there suggesting it xD

Personally, yeah, I'm not sure why people comment on the feel of it, I find it feels nice, and reasonably solid, now I've got mine loaded to the max with weights, so it's pretty heavy, but it definitely feels solid. In fact a friend has a Razer Mamba, and we pretty much both agree that the R.A.T. is better xD

My gf absolutely hates the mouse, but then again, she doesn't like my set up on it, I'm sure with some tweaking she could find a profile that would suit her.

I do completely agree with what you say about the mode setting though, you definitely have to actively look for it at times....

But no, I've been using this for a couple of months now, I've finally got used to the DPI speed increase, and am now getting much better scores than before in most of the FPS' I play...

As for the thumbscroll I'm a bit confused.

Mine works fine, however it may be software related as I must say this is the real downfall of the mouse... Have you activated the profile properly through the taskbar icon? Like set it to the correct profile? I guess if you've got the other buttons working though that's a definite yes :S The only other issue I've had with software is sometimes it really struggles on startup to kick in properly, and then it's a pain to get it loaded. However with the number of problems this pc has, it may well be the pc.

All in all though these are tiny niggles, this mouse has been absolutely fantastic, and I expect it to keep serving me well for a number of years! :)

kd
 
I will test it tomorrow on 2 other pc's that we have here (from my parents, one on Vista, one on Windows 7, so I assume I will have to install the drivers suited for those OS)
http://www.cyborggaming.com/download.htm

Dunno if I installed the drivers wrong, because I went up inserting the disk, plugging the mouse in, and in the end installing everything.

Perhaps I should have removed previous drivers or something?


Fact is that in the TEST, he doest not record or show movement from the thumbscroll...
Strangely the same TEST does not show the sidebuttons either, but at least they work....

Dunno, it really annoys me that a expensive mouse like that doest have its main function to work.
If the problem is the same with the 2 other pc's I can only conclude its faulty hardware and I will return it.
 
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