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GeForce GTX 580 Monster from Asus

Really not much at all, for something like a weirdo quad sli system it could be useful, but not massively. End of the day theres very little power draw from the mobo these days yet the 24pin connector can provide a shedload of power, so theres little reason not to use.

Actually there are a few cases of people running quad SLi/crossfire when doing benchmark runs and too much current gets drawn through the ATX connector, and due to the increased resistance between the connector and the plug they end up melting. IIRC there was even someone on this forum who had this problem.

Having said that I think that only affects a few mobos that had been designed badly without enough additional molex connectors on the board to prevent too much current from being drawn through the ATX connector.
 
Too often (depending on the motherboard) the max power you can draw from the PCI-e slot itself before the motherboard does itself in is very close to its rated specs - whereas since 2005-2006ish the PCI-e spec for the power connectors has had an increase in the amperage they are supposed to handle so with properly made cables and a good quality PSU you can easily pull upwards of 500 watt with 2x8pin and probably almost that with 1x6 and 1x8 pin.
 
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Unfortunately these cards always get released much later, and at ridiculous cost, when they should be the default card available on release for the normal cost :(

This almost always kills the potential of these kinda cards :( I can't count how many great designs have come out just as the cards are going EOL and costing 70+% more than the reference card. They need to get it kicking off as soon as they have access to the cards and running promos on release and atleast get them to the market within 2-3 months.
 
It seems a little excessive though, the cooler on the stock 580 is decent. Not silent, but by no means 480 jet engine levels.
 
That’s a wee bit on the large size. It will be interesting to see the temps and how far it can be pushed.
 
Really not much at all, for something like a weirdo quad sli system it could be useful......

Actually there are a few cases of people running quad SLi/crossfire when doing benchmark runs and too much current gets drawn through the ATX connector, and due to the increased resistance between the connector and the plug they end up melting. IIRC there was even someone on this forum who had this problem.

Really? I say except for a few quad sli systems, and you say, actually there are a few quad sli systems it might help.....

This almost always kills the potential of these kinda cards :( I can't count how many great designs have come out just as the cards are going EOL and costing 70+% more than the reference card. They need to get it kicking off as soon as they have access to the cards and running promos on release and atleast get them to the market within 2-3 months.

Yup, these cards are always late, always expensive and for no reason.

In reality if the cooler ACTUALLY cost more it might make sense, though of course often they whack on a bog standard overclock every single card ever made is capable of to justify the cost. Its just madness.

Better coolers, same cost to AIB's for AMD/Nvidia, less rma's due to lower running temps and quieter cards, etc, etc.

I guess to a certain extent too good cooling encourages uber overclocking and voltages but, meh.


As for the 580gtx cooler being ok, not really the core itself has a better thermal profile its not much down to the cooler, the 6970 isn't massively cooler than the 5870, despite the vapour chamber cooler, its mostly a gimmick because while vapour evap/condensing CAN transfer more heat, the heat all ends up in the same heatsink, basically no distance away and still ends up limited ENTIRELY by the heatsinks capacity to cool coupled with the airflow going over it.

THe 5850 stock cooler is basically as good, and a simple prolimatech, which is big but only because its not designed for a specific card, dropped load temps by 40C when overclocked/over volted.

6970/580gtx's can basically run 20-30C cooler with a "proper" cooler and proper fans, and silently on top of it.

Of all users, probably 99.5% of cards ever sold will be used in single card setups, 0.4% of cards will end up in sli/xfire computers and 0.1% will end up in tri/quad setups, and I'm probably being generous.

Even then most mobo's are now being more inteligently designed with big gaps between their two main pci-e slots.

Look at the pics of the EVGA dual, "whatever the frack it is" GTX, actually thats more like Gainward naming scheme there, that cooler is still dual slot but I have literally no doubt at all it would spank an equivilent dual slot blower "standard" type heatsink.

Blower fan coolers got in peoples heads and now they are convinced it massively lowers case temps, increases cpu overclocks and saves endangered animals around the world. Like memory heatspreaders, which do smeg all, the general public convinced themselves they need them, so now few people will risk selling "high end" memory without heatspreaders.
 
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So it comes with extra vrm/conditioned power that won't be used effectively without extreme cooling like DI, ln2.
A vf-3000 heatsink with a redesigned front plate.
A displayport.
A factory overclock.
A £500 entry price tag.


I'd buy 8 for some octal sli action but without 3gb of vram I would feel short changed and as such will not be doing so.





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Of all users, probably 99.5% of cards ever sold will be used in single card setups, 0.4% of cards will end up in sli/xfire computers and 0.1% will end up in tri/quad setups, and I'm probably being generous.
Where are you getting those numbers? I'm curious.
 
Actually there are a few cases of people running quad SLi/crossfire when doing benchmark runs and too much current gets drawn through the ATX connector, and due to the increased resistance between the connector and the plug they end up melting. IIRC there was even someone on this forum who had this problem.

Having said that I think that only affects a few mobos that had been designed badly without enough additional molex connectors on the board to prevent too much current from being drawn through the ATX connector.

Yes, killed a P6T7WS running quad GTX470's that way. The RMA was v1.2 of the motherboard and has a molex connector on the mobo now. No problem since then :)

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