Bought Dell U2311 considering U3011. Please advice

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Just bought the dell u2311 as a test. Have been through a hell of monitors HP 2475, LG 26" IPS, NEC 24WMGX3
But I find u2311 just too small and hate the 16:9 aspect.

So Regarding the U3011:
- Concerned about the buzzing sound people talk about. The U2311 is dead silent
- Concerned about the sRGB mode. Will it look as natural as u2311 72% ntsc
- will it be as fast for gaming .U2311 has some blur but I can live with it.

Hope someone can share some input on this

Thanx in advance
 
Divide by Zero said:
Have yuo looked at the u2711 too? :)

Just to add to your confusion.
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As you might have noticed I don't like 16:9 ;)

JediFragger said:
Also consider the HP ZR30w, awesome 16:10 30" LCD and zero ghosting for me in games :)
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Yeah have thought of that one too but Badass hasn't review it and I put great trust in his reviews. And the reason I'm contemplating the Dell is that I kind of like this U2311 and just want a bigger screen + 16:10 aspect.
I also like the somewhat succesfull sRGB mode on the Dell which as I understand isn't as successful on the HP if it even features such a mode )HP lp2475 did but it had no effect in practice) ?



I really need response from people who own the dell u30111 regarding my concerns...:)
 
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I would just like to say (although I am possibly getting the wrong end of the stick here) the reason Baddass hasn't reviewed the ZR30w may be the same reason I haven't reviewed a single HP monitor for my website. It's an absolute chore to get them to provide review samples and they are simply not easy to work with as a reviewer. That doesn't take anything away from the quality of the screen. Duff Man posted some really good in-depth impressions on his ZR30w some time ago. If you don't need the extra connectivity options, features or fully functional OSD of the U3011 there is no reason to go for that over the cheaper ZR30w, which uses the same panel and similar backlight. Unless of course you prefer the look of the Dell which is fair enough. If you require good sRGB emulation then the U3011 is a good bet. Input lag is of course a possible concern but not everybody would have an issue with this. You can always exercise your rights under DSR if you do, of course.
 
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Ok guys thanx for reply ;)

Have been researching the HP some. It seems very nice and evidently has half the inputlag of the Dell.
But my main big consern regarding the HP still remains:

I can't stand Wide Gamut. IMHO it's the devils work and it was the main reason I sold My HP lp2475. How do you live with it and/or tame it ?
 
My U3011 is very very good and I'm pleased I made the investment.

With regards to your concerns, I've heard no buzzing but this might be down to peoples range of hearing with only a few that can hear it but honestly until you mentioned it I had not even read about this issue. It also might be down to particular panels, in which case Dells excellent on-site exchange warranty should sort that out.

I've noticed no noticable lag over DVI personally, I've played a load of fast paced FPS games with nothing that distracts me from the game itself. But I'm sure there is slight lag on a screen this size if I really looked for it. Frankly the screen is excellent for gaming on just its size alone. I've also had a 3008WFP, U2410, 2408 along with various TN panels and for me at least there is very little between them when it comes to lag. I'd much rather have an IPS with slight lag than any of the issues with TN.

Good review here if you haven't already read it: http://www.tftcentral.co.uk/reviews/dell_u3011.htm
 
If you really hate wide colour gamuts then you may be better off with the Dell due to superior sRGB emulation. Some owners of the ZR30w may be able to confirm but I don't think the support for this is so hot on the ZR30w and infact the colour range is one of its selling points.
 
Having used all 4 of the 30" dell variations 3007wfp 3007wfphc 3008wfp u3011 I must say that the U3011 is certainly an awesome piece of kit! However, with regards to the picture, theres very little difference imho over any of them except the 3007wfp that seems a smidge lacking in contrast.

The U3011 brings everything up to day superbly though and has an astonishing amount of connections making it an truly fantastic bit of kit! Well worth the investment :)
 
JediFragger said:
No problem buddy, your choice.

I'll continue to enjoy excellent image quality combined with absolute colour uniformity across every mm of the screen with very low lag ;)

Enjoy your Dell! :D
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I am on the second ZR30 this week with a brand new replacement coming on monday. Whilst it is a fantastic monitor, the first one suffered with uneven backlight (brighter in the right side than the left) but not as bad as the Dell u3011. The second one has a pink tint across the bottom third of the screen. There is a brand new replacement coming out tomorrow (hopefully perfect!)

But I still think it's luck of the draw sometimes even with the ZR30w.
 
@ntemples1, - I've noticed a lot of guys like you on these type of forums - they seem to RMA their "expensive" monitors constantly, for the smallest of subjective reasons, I'm sure Dell and HP would love to revisit their 1 pixel RMA policy because overall I can't see them making a lot of money from the monitors (unless they have some sort of insurance against it).

With this kind of messing going on, it's no wonder prices are so high!

Anyway, there is some very interesting and lively debate going on over on the Anandtech review comments (After just reviewing the U3011 and found it coming up short in many areas).

http://www.anandtech.com/show/4070/dell-u3011-review-dells-new-30-inch-flagship
 
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Zappb3, I'd say if you're paying for the prices of these 30" IPS monitors, you should expect perfection - particularly if you're going to be doing colour critical work.

Dell/HP (or maybe just LG who make the majority of the panels) should really revise their quality checking, however despite the thousands of complaints and returns, they've not changed a thing. So clearly sending a monitor back for a replacement is cheaper or not impacting their business model.
 
zappb3 said:
@ntemples1, - I've noticed a lot of guys like you on these type of forums - they seem to RMA their "expensive" monitors constantly, for the smallest of subjective reasons, I'm sure Dell and HP would love to revisit their 1 pixel RMA policy because overall I can't see them making a lot of money from the monitors (unless they have some sort of insurance against it).
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On the contrary, I'd say it's the customers who tug their forelocks and meekly put up with substandard goods who do the rest of us a disservice, by encouraging manufacturers and retailers to cut corners in the knowledge that they'll get away with it most of the time.

And I'm not sure why you've placed "expensive" in quotes - don't you think £1000 is a lot to shell out for a monitor?
 
Good point Crackerbear - but let's be honest, if you do real colour critical work you buy Eizo - you don't mess around with these "cheap" dells...

@Capitain Crash - Now the world "cheap" is in quotes, expensive is a relative thing.


For example,

I can take my Dell 3008WFP (Rev A02) sitting beside me here, 2 years warranty left and give Bangalore a call...

"Hi India, Oh golly gosh! I've just pulled a potentially bad pixel out of my ass"

I'll get a new 3008WFP (revision A06) by courier next day.

People might might take advantage of this, for the sake of taking advantage of this. Also, the enthusiasts like @ntemples1 @CaptainCrash etc..., may have created an imaginary world around their panels, which may or may just be in their heads).

For smaller companies like Hazro, it's no wonder they don't give the same guarantee's and pixel policy's as Dell etc... because with customers like ntemples they would be out of business in a matter of months.


Dell must only be able to manage it by:

1. Insurance - they can claim x against their insurance for every monitor send back
2. Their supplier - LG pays something for every panel that gets sent back
3. By reselling as refurbished
4. sheer scale
 
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zappb3 said:
People might might take advantage of this, for the sake of taking advantage of this. Also, the enthusiasts like @ntemples1 @captaincrash etc..., may have created an imaginary world around their panels, which may or may just be in their heads).
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Well, if it *hasn't* developed a severe case of bleeding light out of its ass, and it *isn't* brighter in the upper left hand side, and it *hasn't* developed dead pixels, why would you go to the trouble of getting a warranty exchange, when the replacement will likely be a refurb and may have one or more of those faults? And if it *does* develop those faults, then why on earth wouldn't you take advantage of the warranty you'd paid for?

As for creating an "imaginary world", frankly I've got better things to do with my time than repeatedly and needlessly RMAing stuff and then sitting around waiting for couriers to turn up. That doesn't mean I'm going to just roll over when goods or services don't come up to expectations, and I really don't understand the mentality of those who do.

Still, different strokes for different folks I guess.

edit: I see you edited your post and removed the "bleeding light out of its ass" and other references, but I guess the overall message is the same. :)
 
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When you put it like that CaptainCrash, I can see I'm being too cynical.

When there is a legitimate problem of course - yes rma.

Maybe it's the subjective nature of a lot of these problems that make them hard to prove / dis prove. Most of the RMA stories I see have nothing to do with dead / bad pixels.
 
zappb3 said:
@ntemples1, - I've noticed a lot of guys like you on these type of forums - they seem to RMA their "expensive" monitors constantly, for the smallest of subjective reasons, I'm sure Dell and HP would love to revisit their 1 pixel RMA policy because overall I can't see them making a lot of money from the monitors (unless they have some sort of insurance against it).

With this kind of messing going on, it's no wonder prices are so high!

Anyway, there is some very interesting and lively debate going on over on the Anandtech review comments (After just reviewing the U3011 and found it coming up short in many areas).

http://www.anandtech.com/show/4070/dell-u3011-review-dells-new-30-inch-flagship
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I'd just like to say that I DO consider £1000 pounds to be a lot of money, I am not rich and I do expect a very good quality monitor for this sort of money.

I need it to be colour correct (for work), while I understand no panel would be 100% perfect especially due to the size, I am not willing to put up with something that has noticeable defects.

Actually the company I bought this monitor from have been SUPER helpful and completely understand my position, and have been brilliant. As for HP and Dell, they will make shed loads of money on these monitors, bit of a daft thing to say really! Do you know how huge these companies are?

I am hoping that the replacement tomorrow will be perfect for me because I love the screen, and I want to keep it.

Finally I really don't like the way in which your original post or subsequent posts were worded, you seem to be attacking me when in fact you know nothing about me... considering you are new round here not the way to go to make a good impression on those who come here regularly.
 
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