The divide only materialises (assuming it does) in those subjects because parents are exercising a right to look at a school in a wider context. A divide isn't inherent in how the school is set up.
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The divide only materialises (assuming it does) in those subjects because parents are exercising a right to look at a school in a wider context. A divide isn't inherent in how the school is set up.
Religious indoctrination should stay away from schools. School is supposed to be a place where one learns truth. Where one is educated and given the tools to positively shape and affect the world. Religion should be taught in an objective fashion, as a point of study. Nothing more. Nothing less.
It is to appease certain groups of people, who feel that if their personal values aren't specifically adhered to or supported in some way, that they are downtrodden and being discriminated against. Which is, frankly, pathetic.
Schools belonging to a particular faith is tantamount to having the Church, a long time ago, being the sole place where one could get an education - a severely biased, limited education. They have no place in this world, and until we realise that we can continue to be a primitive, savage child race.
It is to appease certain groups of people, who feel that if their personal values aren't specifically adhered to or supported in some way, that they are downtrodden and being discriminated against. Which is, frankly, pathetic.
Schools belonging to a particular faith is tantamount to having the Church, a long time ago, being the sole place where one could get an education - a severely biased, limited education. They have no place in this world, and until we realise that we can continue to be a primitive, savage child race.
That's a poor argument you seem to be making for the sake of arguing.
Realistically speaking and you know that this is going to be the case, parent of a muslim origin will send there kids to the this school over the many public normal schools in the area of no faith, and the opposite would be true of non muslims.
Segregation divides of wealth hold no merit as the children are taught the same education and different religions can be rich or poor too, and it only goes to prove my point a little as privately educated wealthier people do end up in their own little divides.
Would not a faith school tend to lean towards that faith in it's teaching? It is likely to contain many of that faith, and as such those values would be propagated in both the teaching and by the social interactions. (Christians going to school with Christians are more likely to find support for that faith, than in a school where they might not be around many other Christians)
I really cant be bothered to continue at this time in the morning, with this fruitless effort of yours to make me bite, its like arguing with a seesaw, your provide no opinions of any sort, instead you just attempt to rub people up the wrong way, and this isnt the first time ive noticed it.
Night.
I suppose it's more about principle really. Or more a symbol of our progress. Seperating religion and education signifies a certain amount of progress. Moving on from what could be considered the dark ages of our existence, into a more 'evolved' way of being.
If people don't have valid reasons. Then that leaves geological options. I say it how I see it and saying it might make some people think. Lots of evidence on this forum for hatred towards religion. It's not their to bait people. It's their team try and make people think why they actually want something banned rather than regurgitating rubbish reasons.
agreed.
No you dont, you keep ignoring what people keep repeating and just focus on the goal of picking out inconsequential parts, that don't hold water.
You know for a fact it makes no difference whether a muslim school allows others, no non muslims will go, yet its prodominent in one of your many rubbing people up the wrong way snipes.
Its pathetic.
Adios.
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Teaching kids to stone homosexuals and kill Jews is acceptable to our ******* governments. Face it our politicians are cowards who will bend over backwards to appease this intolerant religion.
The thing is this is happening all over Europe, immigration is basically territorial
war without all the killing. As demographics change I think civil war might actually happen.
The thing is this is happening all over Europe, immigration is basically territorial
war without all the killing. As demographics change I think civil war might actually happen.
Your not looking at the facts as you claim though, (oh god why am i coming back)
You can have segregation when 90% of the country subscribed to those ideals, you wont notice it. Now the country has become more multicultural and minorities are larger, and greater in number, you are creating pockets of anti social behaviour everywhere.
A report on race riots in Bradford five years ago found that the existence of religious schools had increased segregation and contributed to racial tension. [...] Critics [of faith schools] argue that as faith-based schools increase in numbers, racial and ethnic mixing will dwindle.”The Economist (2006)1
“The more religious schools there are, the less the chance of eliminating Sectarianism - and, the more minority religion schools there are, the greater the danger of splintering our education system along racial as well as sectarian lines.”
National Secular Society (2002)7
“Amartya Sen [is] a Nobel laureate, a former master of Trinity College, Cambridge, and professor of economics and philosophy at Harvard. [...] In his recent book Identity and Violence: The Illusion of Destiny, Sen argues that [...] to try to classify individuals according to a religious identity is an intellectual confusion that "can animate dangerous divisiveness". It's hard to read those words without thinking about the recent murder in Preston.”
The Guardian (2006)
Nick Clegg, the leader of the Liberal Democrat party in the UK, says that in order to reduce bullying and intolerance in faith schools, they should explicitly explain that homosexuality is natural - 'normal and harmless'. Unfortunately, Church leaders still react strongly to such suggestions, and he drew much criticism from the Church of England. It should be beyond the control of government as to how children are raised by their parents, but in schools, the government has every right to assert that tolerance and moral values come before dogma, especially when that dogma results in discrimination and social injustice
With experience of diverse people you will find you have much empathy for people, more understanding of the basic way that people work. An understanding of how to avoid unnecessary and unproductive conflict between people from different cultures (due to simple things like body language and language) is a skill that will also enable you to control and understand people who are not like yourself.”"Western Culture: Trash and Popular Culture, Elitism and Multiculturalism" by Vexen Crabtree (2006)
“Religious schools, however, tend to divide society because, as a result of them, pupils become segregated by denomination or religion. The sectarianism, perhaps unwittingly accepted or encouraged at home, and reinforced at school often leads children to develop a circle of friends predominantly-even if subconsciously-chosen on religious grounds. This sets a pattern which can carry on throughout life and be transmitted to offspring, perpetuating the problem.”
National Secular Society (2002)
All of these cut and paste make my point ever so well, but hay ho, im sure you'll just say there opinion and not fact, so i'm wasting my time.
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