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AMD x6 3.3ghz 1100 or the x6 3.2ghz 1090

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Ok so im pretty much new to building, making my new build very very soon iv been told (by the honourable and esteemed overclockers forum peoples):

that theres no real point in getting the 3.3ghz phenom as the 3.2ghz is cheaper and by "adding one to the bios" they become equivalent


Also they overclock to the same speed?

Are they any advantages at all to getting the 3.3ghz over the 3.2?

Does the 3.3 overclock higher than the 3.2 does? (i should have sufficient cooling)


Also - how difficult is it to 'add one to the BIOS' - bearing in mind I am 100% new to o'clocking etc with the help of a tutorial would i be able to do it? Also is it safe and reliable?


Any suggestions/advice would be much appreciated
(I do know the i5 is a better bet but its gotta b n AMD)

Also, have similar posts on radeon 6950 v. 6970. And a SSD & SATA2 v. a SATA 3 (if u know what your doing in that region and have any suggestions there plz do look it up and drop a post)

Thanks in advance
 
i was in the same pickle on my build a couple of weeks ago, i wanted top end but couldnt justify the difference in cost between the 1090 BE and the i7, so i went for the phenom and havnt looked back, all i done bios wise is enabled the turbo core and bobs your uncle! no hiccups yet and upto 3.6 across 3 cores when needed, also with the BE its ready unlocked if you wanted to go down the OC route. Im not interested in that yet maybe in the future when its needed ;), i also like the way it idles at room temp with stock cooler too.( max 40 when fully loaded)

graphics i went for the HD6870 after taking back the GTX460 due to dreadful fan noise, and again no questions on asking that to play @1080 on crysis everything maxed too, after everthing i read about all the rants and raves about intel im over the moon with my phenom!
 
At stock speeds the 1100T uses less power than the 1090T despite the higher clock, see here for the comparison: http://www.anandtech.com/bench/Product/146?vs=203

Can't say for sure if the 1100T would clock higher than the 1090T but I would guess it would, unless you were pushing it to the max I doubt you'd notice a difference.

If power consumption isn't a factor and your not looking for maximum OC I'd go for the 1090T.
 
come on, be serious, get the 1090T and clock it, the difference is what ~10W, im sure you can live with that! the only reason they use less power is the fact they are probably the best cores of the batch, other than that they are identical as far as im aware. :)
 
Like you said their not identical, their hand picked, 10W is the minimum at idle, it goes up with increased clock and load. It'll also run cooler and most likely clock further.

Like I said above, unless your going to push it to the max the 1090T would be fine if the power saving and the rest of it doesn't matter to you.
 
CAT-THE-FIFTH said:
Phenom II X6 1075T is also a Black Edition and can be had for under £160.
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+1 to that, both 1075T and 1100T are the latest revision of Phenom IIs and none of these CPUs are cherry picked as some of you are led to believe.

Phenom II X6 1075T is the cheapest Black Edition six-core CPU and you should definitely go with it to save some cash.

http://www.anandtech.com/bench/Product/203?vs=185

To make sure that you "save" some power ;)
 
Mr Krugga said:
and none of these CPUs are cherry picked as some of you are led to believe
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Why do you beleive that?
I beleive the 1100T's are because they use less power than the 1090T's at a higher clock. If the 1100T's aren't hand picked, how else could you explain that.

Mr Krugga said:
http://www.anandtech.com/bench/Product/203?vs=185

To make sure that you "save" some power ;)
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Not sure what your point is, you'd expect the 1075T to use less power than a 1100T because it has a lower clock.

You wouldn't expect the 1100T to use less power than the lower clocked 1090T, but it does. Suggesting it's a hand picked chip. Of course the 1090T/1100T anandtech comparison could have just been a fluke. We will likely never know for sure. Unless you know something i don't, in which case, spill :)
 
John24 said:
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Hand picked... :rolleyes:

They're just a newer revision, that's all. Manufacturing process improves and the CPUs are able to squeeze the same clocks using less volts and current.

If you haven't realised it yourself, look at that AnandTech bench data. Both 1075T and 1100T are the same processors with different multpliers but being unlocked CPUs allows them to achieve similar clocks.

There's an obvious correlation in the power consumption that you've intentionally missed.
 
Mr Krugga said:
They're just a newer revision, that's all. Manufacturing process improves and the CPUs are able to squeeze the same clocks using less volts and current.
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Yes, and therefore not the same so "hand picked" :rolleyes:

There isn't a 1075T BE AFAIK. The 1100T is still the one to go for if you want the highest possible clock.
 
John24 said:
Yes, and therefore not the same so "hand picked" :rolleyes:

There isn't a 1075T BE AFAIK. The 1100T is still the one to go for if you want the highest possible clock.
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No, not hand picked or cherry picked, however you decide to call it.

It's just a newer revision of the same CPU, all new CPUs will be out in that stepping.

And it appears I was wrong, the 1075T isn't BE. It still overclocks to 3.8-4GHz which should be sufficient for most people.
 
So your issue then is with the terminology people are using.

The point is that there is a difference, however you want to word it. I think the OP's questions have been answered though.
 
Just get the 1090T. They're exactly the same just the 1100T has a 0.1 higher Ghz clock rate. Just clock that extra bit yourself for fr33 and save £30? =p

EDIT: Plus they are both black editions ;)
 
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