IT 'Profession' devalued
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So that IT staff arn't downgraded to a piece of poop. Where I work is the education sector in a well known college. I'm not going to dress down am I.
Anyway, no more discussions on what I wear.
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OK.
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Have you seen the standard of some of the people who work in IT? Yet these same people expect to be paid a high salary. It's a joke.
If you're hiring with the attitude everyone must wear a suit and tie, you'll probably discount quite a few people who put more value in doing a good job than appearing to do so.
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Jackpot - I prefer to be noticed for my quality of work rather than what I wear. If a manager doesn't get this they can take a running jump.
We have an unwritten rule to dress similar to our clients and you should see what some of them wear!
Ties in the workplace are outmoded and old fashioned.
I haven't worn a suit/tie to work for over 5 years now (city, London + finance). It's very much out-dated now.
Back on topic. It's true there are more people in IT now, and it will push down the wages of the entry-position jobs. However, the number of people who are proper enthusiasts have remained about the same. Once you get out of the realm of jobs you can do with 3 weeks training and a certificate, you get into highly specialised areas where even searching for answers over the internet is a skill in itself. Moreover, in some cases it's knowing what the problem is so you can search for it which is the skill.
In many ways the influx of useless/clueless developers has made it easier for the good developers to get better wages, but harder to find them. So they are, in-fact, a scarce resource. And for the economists amongst us, we all know about how scarce resources are priced...
Back on topic. It's true there are more people in IT now, and it will push down the wages of the entry-position jobs. However, the number of people who are proper enthusiasts have remained about the same. Once you get out of the realm of jobs you can do with 3 weeks training and a certificate, you get into highly specialised areas where even searching for answers over the internet is a skill in itself. Moreover, in some cases it's knowing what the problem is so you can search for it which is the skill.
In many ways the influx of useless/clueless developers has made it easier for the good developers to get better wages, but harder to find them. So they are, in-fact, a scarce resource. And for the economists amongst us, we all know about how scarce resources are priced...
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I'm glad that we're still calling it 'IT' on this forum. 'ICT' gets on my nerves.