Are We Witnessing the Start of a Global Revolution? Political Awareness.

[cheets64]

Tear gas used in Egypt

Uprisings happen, lets face it, we are in an uncertain time, governments cant control the public, they never have and never will when things need change, where wealth means nothing and people are being thrown on the scrap heap at a young age, living costs are rising, tensions are rising. The world is going through a troubled time, lets hope it can get back on track.

Yeah not ideal - it's really the guy at 45seconds you need to hear.

"We will not be silent. if you are a Christian, a Muslim or an atheist. You will demand your god damn rights! And we will have our rights, one way or the other!"

 

[sammo62]

Al Jazeera are apparently reporting a lot of the "looters" in Egypt who were apprehended by crowds were actually carrying government IDs. The plot thickens?

*obviously subject to hard evidence coming out this is all speculation.

 

["andy"]

Al Jazeera are apparently reporting a lot of the "looters" in Egypt who were apprehended by crowds were actually carrying government IDs. The plot thickens?

ITN news showed police dressed in plain clothes causing fights within the crowds

mubarak and the police forces are desperate and id expect many more dodgy tactics

some earlier where even hinting that the police are starting to sway sides , there was a guy speaking from inside a prison earlier , they had taken control of the wing they where in and supposedly the security forces wherent trying very hard to stop them

 

[badcompany]

The markets are twitching at the prospect of the suez canal being shut which would be VERY BAD for everyone especially for us in western europe.

http://www.ft.com/cms/s/0/848f78c4-2778-11e0-a327-00144feab49a.html

http://greenfaucet.com/economy/currencies-rocked-by-turmoil-in-egypt/55999

 

[scorza]

YES, THAT'S DEFINITELY WHAT I SAID.

The original question from LateX'Dog was "Is it so wrong to stand up for your self? Being counted and saying "i'm not taking this anymore!"" to which you said "It is if you ruin your country's credit rating!". Given that the protesters claim to be protesting for hope, democracy and human rights then yes, that's definitely what you appear to say. Care to clarify your post at all or perhaps you'd prefer to stick to hysterical overreactions.

 

[regulus]

No. We're witnessing a load of violent thugs causing trouble, nothing new there.

Absolutely. How dare they stand up against repressive, undemocratic scumbags that worm themselves into government and stay there for decades with the help of nepotism and blatant corruption, silencing all opposition in the process.

 

[J-FRO]

The markets are twitching at the prospect of the suez canal being shut which would be VERY BAD for everyone especially for us in western europe.

http://www.ft.com/cms/s/0/848f78c4-2778-11e0-a327-00144feab49a.html

http://greenfaucet.com/economy/currencies-rocked-by-turmoil-in-egypt/55999

Looks like we're going to have to go back and take control again!

 

[Robbo]

Absolutely. How dare they stand up against repressive, undemocratic scumbags that worm themselves into government and stay there for decades with the help of nepotism and blatant corruption, silencing all opposition in the process.

Try looking at it from another angle. There is (as with all riots) a lot of trouble being caused with all the goings on at the moment. People are being killed and buildings are being trashed left, right and centre.

They should stand up against the things you've said, of course, however is there not a better way to do it? If not, then fair enough, but I don't believe the scenes I'm witnessing on the TV represent any form of remotely civilized modern society.

 

[doofer]

But...But...But look what violent protest did for Nelson Mandela. One man's Terrorist is another man's Freedom Fighter remember.

 

[badcompany]

Looks like we're going to have to go back and take control again!

Perhaps the Yanks will back us this time ! Was scandalous how they betrayed us last time to serve their own interests.

 

[Cosimo]

It is the END OF DAYS......

Is it on again tonight?

 

[Ahleckz]

Try looking at it from another angle. There is (as with all riots) a lot of trouble being caused with all the goings on at the moment. People are being killed and buildings are being trashed left, right and centre.

They should stand up against the things you've said, of course, however is there not a better way to do it? If not, then fair enough, but I don't believe the scenes I'm witnessing on the TV represent any form of remotely civilized modern society.

With respect to Egypt, there probably isn't a better way. It's a very different place to that of a Western democracy that we are used to. The whole idea of getting change through the ballot box just won't work there. I'm uncertain if this will, as if it does just result in the Muslim Brotherhood (or whatever their name is) into power then I doubt it will have the success and consequences that the people on the street are hoping for.
I'd be interested to hear other options, which would be effective?

 

[simpletom]

Isn't this guy simply a Western puppet anyhow?

Maybe the people are somewhat tired after all...

 

[badcompany]

Muslim Brotherhood wont bode well for western foreign policy makers I bet.

Outside Egypt, the group's political activity has been described as evolving away from modernism and reformism towards a more traditional, "rightist conservative secularist" stance. For example, the Muslim Brotherhood party in Kuwait opposes suffrage for women.[9] The Brotherhood condemned terrorism and the 9/11 attacks,[10][11] but whether or not it has ties to terrorism is a matter of dispute.[12] Its position on violence has also caused disputes within the movement, with advocates of violence at times breaking away to form groups such as the Al-Gama'a al-Islamiyya (The Islamic Group) and Al Takfir Wal Hijra (Excommunication and Migration).[13]

U.S. White House counterterrorism chief Juan Zarate, who says "The Muslim Brotherhood is a group that worries us not because it deals with philosophical or ideological ideas but because it defends the use of violence against civilians

 

[=VTA=MANFACE]

Well, I don't blame them. People are getting really jacked off with politicians and bankers.

There'll be riots in the UK later on in the year if the government doesn't sort out fuel prices.

 

[kwerk]

Who ever becomes the new guy will be a western puppet too most likely.

http://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/wor...acking-for-rebel-leaders-behind-uprising.html

The American Embassy in Cairo helped a young dissident attend a US-sponsored summit for activists in New York, while working to keep his identity secret from Egyptian state police.

On his return to Cairo in December 2008, the activist told US diplomats that an alliance of opposition groups had drawn up a plan to overthrow President Hosni Mubarak and install a democratic government in 2011.

...

The US government has previously been a supporter of Mr Mubarak’s regime. But the leaked documents show the extent to which America was offering support to pro-democracy activists in Egypt while publicly praising Mr Mubarak as an important ally in the Middle East.

In a secret diplomatic dispatch, sent on December 30 2008, Margaret Scobey, the US Ambassador to Cairo, recorded that opposition groups had allegedly drawn up secret plans for “regime change” to take place before elections, scheduled for September this year.

 

[Inquisitor]

They should stand up against the things you've said, of course, however is there not a better way to do it? If not, then fair enough, but I don't believe the scenes I'm witnessing on the TV represent any form of remotely civilized modern society.

Any such repressive government is neither civilized nor "modern" anyway. As sensationalist as that video is, the quote from JFK does sum the problem up quite nicely:

Those who make peaceful revolution impossible will make violent revolution inevitable.

 

[Orcish-Horde]

Try looking at it from another angle. There is (as with all riots) a lot of trouble being caused with all the goings on at the moment. People are being killed and buildings are being trashed left, right and centre.

They should stand up against the things you've said, of course, however is there not a better way to do it? If not, then fair enough, but I don't believe the scenes I'm witnessing on the TV represent any form of remotely civilized modern society.

Civilized modern society is no different to historical Rome, happy people don't riot, unhappy people do.

 

[trigger-happy]

Who ever becomes the new guy will be a western puppet too most likely.

Dunno man, but the Muslim Brotherhood will make some countries butt hurt.

 

["andy"]

Try looking at it from another angle. There is (as with all riots) a lot of trouble being caused with all the goings on at the moment. People are being killed and buildings are being trashed left, right and centre.

They should stand up against the things you've said, of course, however is there not a better way to do it? If not, then fair enough, but I don't believe the scenes I'm witnessing on the TV represent any form of remotely civilized modern society.

whats more important ? some belongings and buildings or the right to freedom ?

these egyptians care so much about this that they are going out and risking there lives , who gives a damn about some buildings

there isnt a better way for them to do it. anyone who opposes the government in small groups dont stand a chance , straight to prison for some torture.