iPhone 4 Upgrade in june..

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Now then, I feel rather stupid for getting an iPhone 4 at Christmas when the new one is coming in June but anyway..
Would orange let me upgrade to it for a fee in June/July when it is released?
At this point I would have been in the contract for 8 months, or could I sell the iPhone say a week before the launch of the new one and purchase the new one and just insert my micro sim into it?
 
Hi Chives

You can normally only upgrade your phone when within the last three months of your agreement with Orange. If you last upgraded around Christmas 2010, then it is likely that you would not be able to upgrade again until next year. At this time, we have no information to suggest there will be any change to our upgrade processes if a new iPhone is released in the summer.

Darren, Orange Helpers
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Hi Chives

You can normally only upgrade your phone when within the last three months of your agreement with Orange. If you last upgraded around Christmas 2010, then it is likely that you would not be able to upgrade again until next year. At this time, we have no information to suggest there will be any change to our upgrade processes if a new iPhone is released in the summer.

Darren, Orange Helpers
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Hi there, on a related note I am having severe issues with the 3G coverage in my area, it simply does not work 99% of the time properly even when I'm in the middle of the city I'd be lucky to be able to get 3G to work properly. I took it to an Orange shop who referred me to an Apple store, went there and they ran some diagnostic tests on it and found that there was no fault to be found. Intrestingly the apple genius who I was talking to said that "since the start of your merger with T-mobile everything has gone downhill for orange in south Wales".

They recommended contacting you after a week (which will be tomorrow) and requesting a new SIM, my question is could this help/resolve the problem?

If after a SIM replacement does not sort it then I will be looking to cancel the contract.
 
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I want to know why my phone doesn't answer calls when it's using 2g data. Apparently NOM1 type cuts data connections in favour of incoming calls while the NOM2 network that Orange uses will just keep streaming data, forcing the call to go to answerphone.

Why does Orange use NOM2? Is there some reason i.e stability or something?

Go for it Orange Helper person.
 
In a bid to clear up some issues, the below is my opinion and not oranges.

The reason you were referred to Apple is because there's a technical agreement where Apple basically own the chain of repair from customer to endpoint for all telcos. That said, outside of replacing the handset the genius bar apparently knows not a lot as the network hasn't changed dramatically since the merger (outside of the 2G link) so I don't really know how that could affect signal.

Regarding the SIM - is the SIM you're using from before 2006? If so it could be an old generation SIM which doesn't support 3G but this is pretty rare and as you have an iPhone 4 I'm guessing you're using a microSIM orange provided instead of chopping up your own right? Replacement of the SIM is unlikely to fix anything although it can be damaged but this is quite rare. It could be a configuration issue but the more common thing is that people don't go into 3G range (yes, even in cities) or that the phone doesn't automatically switch over to it because of signal quality. You can force the latter by switching airplane mode on and off

http://www.sitefinder.ofcom.org.uk/ - map of masts in the UK. 3G masts are 2100Mhz, 2G are 1800 for orange.

As for cancelling...while I'm sure you're unhappy about this (and please don't shoot the messenger) signal quality is something explicitly mentioned in the contract and it's extremely rare that you would be able to cancel your contract without paying the rest of it. We are talking blood from stone difficulty.

For upgrades - the best way would probably be Ebay the 4, buy SIM free iphone 5. All other methods will incur a greater cost to you.

NOM2 - I asked a few people godin and no one really knows. I can sorta see it from an automated system POV (Lots of machines use 2G network to send images, trafficmaster for example, updates etc... if you could interrupt this by accidentally calling it / coldcall then the system might cry) but I couldn't find out anything definitive sorry.
 
Hmmm interesting, thanks. They should find a system that has the best of both worlds, or extend 3g properly (which I guess they're banking on, but had better hurry up).
 
In a bid to clear up some issues, the below is my opinion and not oranges.

The reason you were referred to Apple is because there's a technical agreement where Apple basically own the chain of repair from customer to endpoint for all telcos. That said, outside of replacing the handset the genius bar apparently knows not a lot as the network hasn't changed dramatically since the merger (outside of the 2G link) so I don't really know how that could affect signal.

Regarding the SIM - is the SIM you're using from before 2006? If so it could be an old generation SIM which doesn't support 3G but this is pretty rare and as you have an iPhone 4 I'm guessing you're using a microSIM orange provided instead of chopping up your own right? Replacement of the SIM is unlikely to fix anything although it can be damaged but this is quite rare. It could be a configuration issue but the more common thing is that people don't go into 3G range (yes, even in cities) or that the phone doesn't automatically switch over to it because of signal quality. You can force the latter by switching airplane mode on and off

http://www.sitefinder.ofcom.org.uk/ - map of masts in the UK. 3G masts are 2100Mhz, 2G are 1800 for orange.

As for cancelling...while I'm sure you're unhappy about this (and please don't shoot the messenger) signal quality is something explicitly mentioned in the contract and it's extremely rare that you would be able to cancel your contract without paying the rest of it. We are talking blood from stone difficulty.

For upgrades - the best way would probably be Ebay the 4, buy SIM free iphone 5. All other methods will incur a greater cost to you.

NOM2 - I asked a few people godin and no one really knows. I can sorta see it from an automated system POV (Lots of machines use 2G network to send images, trafficmaster for example, updates etc... if you could interrupt this by accidentally calling it / coldcall then the system might cry) but I couldn't find out anything definitive sorry.
Very good and informative post, thank you.
I used the new micro sim that came with the phone, that is why I thought it would make no difference. Guess I am going have to put up with this poor coverage. I sure as hell wont be going with orange come next contract though.
 
If there is one good thing about PAYG, you don't end up in situations like this because you have flexibility on signal coverage by switching providers when you like.

It's not like 14 days cooling off is enough to test the signal in all the places you go each month :/
 
They're releasing yet another iPhone?!?!?!?

Jesus Christ...

They have released a new iPhone every June/July since the original came out, it's hardly a surprise. As a comparism since March last year there have been 3 different HTC Desire models alone released already let alone other HTC models. This is one area you can't really criticise Apple, a single handset update each year is nothing.
 
Hi

Sorry for the delay in getting back to you.

Chives, I would recommend calling Customer Services, as our iPhone Team should be able to look into any possible issues with the network in your area, or advise whether a SIM replacement may help. They can be reached either by calling 150 from your Orange phone, or 07973 100150 from a fixed line.

Godinman, you are correct in your description of how our 2G network works. As for why the decision was made to choose this method of routing calls and data, I am unable to give a specific explanation. We are investing heavily in our 3G network, which does allow simultaneous calls and data usage, and we aim to offer roaming on T-Mobile's 3G network later in the Spring.

I hope this may help.

Darren, Orange Helpers
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