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AMD Radeon HD 6990 - More details released

Not really, ATI have the job of making the HD6990 thermally viable, hence the (probable) lower clocks.

You might find it cheaper to get a pair of separate HD6950s though and flash them to 6970 status, you'll get the full clock speeds on top.
 
All the rumours i have seen about the gtx590/595 state that it will have 2gb memory so the bus will most likely be 256. Thats why most articles seem to think it will be based on ti560. Some articles were saying that it would not cost much more than a gtx580 which led more people to think it was going to be an enhanced gf104.

With crossfire scaling being so good atm and amd holding a lead on power usage its hard to see how nv can bring out a faster card at stock clocks if both stick to the 300watt mark for peak power.
 
Not really, ATI have the job of making the HD6990 thermally viable, hence the (probable) lower clocks.

You might find it cheaper to get a pair of separate HD6950s though and flash them to 6970 status, you'll get the full clock speeds on top.

this is what i planned, space the cards out so they have 2 full slot spaces between them [im guessing you can get bridges that are longer] and then use thier full potential

maybe you cant get them, i cant find them at all with a quick search
 
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this is what i planned, space the cards out so they have 2 full slot spaces between them [im guessing you can get bridges that are longer] and then use thier full potential

maybe you cant get them, i cant find them at all with a quick search

Well included with my crosshair formula motherboard I got a longer CF bridge, can't remember how long it is exactly but 10cm sounds about right and If you have a look at pictures of the mobo layout I have my first card in the top PCI-E slot and my 2nd card in the 3rd PCI-E slot which leaves a PCI-E and PCI slot exposed and the bridge still bends outwards a bit. It will most likely stretch from PCI-E 1 to PCI-E 4 if I was to set it up like that.

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If you are buying high end graphic cards and using high end setups like CF you have no excuse not to use a high end motherboard!
 
I think its the first quarter of this year so for ATI up to April.

If you mean Nvidia the first quarter is up to July, or as I like to call it, the second half of the year.
 
Well the 9800GX2 was the cores from a 9800GTX clocked at ~9800GT speeds.

The GTX295 was a pair of GTX275s clocked at GTX260-216 speeds - the cores themselves were closer in setup to a GTX280 though, just missing 4 pixel shaders?

So by common sense, the GTX590 is going to be one of the following, depending on TDP.

2x GTX580 cores, most likely heavily clocked down to lower than GTX570?
2x GTX570 cores, again clocked down but not as heavily as GTX580 cores would be.

My money would be on the GTX570 cores at ~650MHz core, that way it would take the HD6990 on almost head to head. Needs to be priced accordingly, mind.

The 275 didn't have the power consumption and thermal issues of the GTX580. Additionally, if they're going to massively downclock the GPUs to get them within the thermal envelope they're aiming for, I wouldn't think it'd make loads of sense for them to use chips with 512 shaders, then massively downclock, considering how expensive it is for nVidia to produce their full Fermi chips.

It'd make far more sense for them to either use 2 GTX560s, or downclocked 570s, however I can see the 2x 560s giving the same performance as 2 downclocked 570s, which would make using 570 GPUs, again, pointless, unless their intention was for people to overclock them, in which case two 570s would make sense, as people could clock them to what ever they wanted (within reason of course) if they didn't care about power consumption.

Then again, we're talking about nVidia, and a lot of things they do don't make sense, so they could very well attempt to use 2 hugely downclocked and power limited 580 GPUs, just so that they can put on the box "2x 512 shader GPUs", but that'd just be stupid I think.
 
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^^ IIRC its usually more efficent to have say 512SP at 500MHz than 384SP at 650MHz.

Most of the info released on the dual chip nVidia cards so far has been fake or hype tho none of the images so far, even those supposedly of AIB developed cards, show an actual viable working card (one of the images even shows 2x full fat GF100 cores photoshopped).
 
Remember that 2x 512 gpu's at say, 550Mhz and 1v, and 2x448/480sp's at an increased clock with increased voltage could perform the same, but the 512sp's with lower clocks and voltage would use less overall power.

Theres a reason that in general all the dual gpu cards have two full cores on, downclocked, and not two lower end cores with higher clocks. You also get more full yield parts in the centre of the wafer which, 98% of the time will have the best power consumption profile.

Its almost certain to be a 512sp cores, or 384sp's on a 560gtx core, or of course, not arrive at all.

I'll point out again that AMD have confirmed the 6990 on numerous slides, while Nvidia haven't mentioned a dual gpu card AT ALL.

A pcb shot quite literally means nothing, for years we've seen them for multiple "theoretical cards" that never make it to market, last year we saw a dozen different dual gf1014/gf100 cards and a grand total of none made it to market.

The only card off the top of my head I can think of that didn't use full sp cores was teh 4850x2, which got zero traction as the power saving it offered was almost non existant, highly binned central wafer full SP cores vs 4850 cores with failed SP's and higher effective clocks for any given performance level. Every successful dual gpu card had all its cores available, 295gtx, 4870x2, 5970, etc, etc.
 
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A central positioned fan is never a good idea imho, unless that's a 120mm fan lol. But then again looking at that pic half of the heat will exhaust inside the pc case.
 
That card has to be a joke - no way a central positioned fan that small can shift enough air to keep 2x high end cores cool enough (or if it did it would be working flat out making a huge amount of noise).
 
That card has to be a joke - no way a central positioned fan that small can shift enough air to keep 2x high end cores cool enough (or if it did it would be working flat out making a huge amount of noise).

Well both the GTX 295 and the Radeon 5970 had only one fan and they did fine.
 
I'll point out again that AMD have confirmed the 6990 on numerous slides, while Nvidia haven't mentioned a dual gpu card AT ALL.

I'd imagine most of their efforts are pointed towards 28nm right now... the success so far on the 28nm RISC CPU front has big implications for kepler if nVidia are also collaborating for GPU development - from their efforts to keep that info under wraps I suspect its true.
 
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