London Teen stabbed 24 times...

Biohazard · 5 Feb 2011 at 13:52

UncleRuckus said:
No I'm not offended, I disagree but not offended.

If the chap wanted to dress up like wee Willie Winky go for it, though I don't think we have the right weather over here to pull it off!

Your comment betrays your twisted logic and emotion.

HAz · 5 Feb 2011 at 13:58

re open the gas chambers i say

UncleRuckus · 5 Feb 2011 at 14:00

Wicksta said:
What do you disagree with in my post? The part saying most racists have some kind of underlying problem with their own lives?

If so why didn't you say that rather than try and put words into my mouth.

Yes pretty much, sorry about the sarcastic remark before.

I have found a lot of these 'racist' who I have met do have serious concerns and have even been victims of Immigration themselves. I too have been a victim but I do try and keep a balanced view on it.

Over Christmas I was speaking to someone very dear to me and he wept because how much the nation has changed, he was around in the second world war btw.

Tefal · 5 Feb 2011 at 14:03

Deadbeat said:
Just in case it gets lost in the thread, I thought I'd immortalise this golden slice of kwerk mathematics for future reference.

Bread is 40%fat!!!

dirtydog · 5 Feb 2011 at 14:03

UncleRuckus said:
Yes pretty much, sorry about the sarcastic remark before.

I have found a lot of these 'racist' who I have met do have serious concerns and have even been victims of Immigration themselves. I too have been a victim but I do try and keep a balanced view on it.

Over Christmas I was speaking to someone very dear to me and he wept because how much the nation has changed, he was around in the second world war btw.

Yep, it is insidious nonsense to suggest that being concerned about the way this country has changed for the worse, makes one racist.

UncleRuckus · 5 Feb 2011 at 14:04

Biohazard said:
Your comment betrays your twisted logic and emotion.

Thanks, have a nice day.

Biohazard · 5 Feb 2011 at 14:25

dirtydog said:
Yep, it is insidious nonsense to suggest that being concerned about the way this country has changed for the worse, makes one racist.

Just a little bit hollow when a racist comes out with it no?

dirtydog · 5 Feb 2011 at 14:33

I'm not racist just because members of the Thought Police say I am.

Biohazard · 5 Feb 2011 at 14:35

dirtydog said:
I'm not racist just because members of the Thought Police say I am.

No your previous comments over the years belay the tag.

No one here is the Thought Police.

What ever persecution you feel you attract is only because of your previous stances.

Some of us remember the intellegently wrapped bile.

Wicksta · 5 Feb 2011 at 14:37

dirtydog said:
I'm not racist just because members of the Thought Police say I am.

Where do you live that gives you such insight? You seem reluctant to say after even accusing me of living in some ethinically isolated area all my life. Put your money where your mouth is?

dirtydog · 5 Feb 2011 at 14:38

Biohazard said:
No your previous comments over the years belay the tag.

No one here is the Thought Police.

What ever persecution you feel you attract is only because of your previous stances.

Some of us remember the intellegently wrapped bile.

Yes well why not let people decide for themselves what my views are, rather than feeling the need to misrepresent them at every turn. If my posts are as bad as you say, then you won't need to explain them to people and put your own slant on it, will you.

Biohazard · 5 Feb 2011 at 14:41

dirtydog said:
Yes well why not let people decide for themselves what my views are, rather than feeling the need to misrepresent them at every turn. If my posts are as bad as you say, then you won't need to explain them to people and put your own slant on it, will you.

This has little to do with the underlying motives for your argument.

I'm in no position to tell you to stop, but there are many of us who can see the hypocrisy in you saying what you did above.

There are a lot of people misrepresenting you from your past if thats the case DD. I simply don't believe it.

platinum87 · 5 Feb 2011 at 14:47

UncleRuckus said:
Yes it's the nasty wacists who are the problem not the ones commiting the crime .

Wicksta said:
No idea what that has to do with my post you quoted, but whatever.

It has to do with you saying "People like you and cheets are part of the problem. Why are you so full of hate? "

SO he said, in a sarcastic way "sure racists are part of the problem" with extra :rolleyes:

added.

Castiel · 5 Feb 2011 at 14:50

dirtydog said:
I'm not racist just because members of the Thought Police say I am.

Indeed you are not racist because of what others think......You are racist because you attribute societal problems exclusively to ethnic minority populations and you insinuate that these problems would not exist if we were a singular racial society.

The fact is however that while problems such as the OP are exacerbated by racial segregation and mass immigration, they are not the exclusive purview of them.

dirtydog · 5 Feb 2011 at 14:53

Castiel said:
Indeed you are not racist because of what others think......You are racist because you attribute societal problems exclusively to ethnic minority populations and you insinuate that these problems would not exist if we were a singular racial society.

Well predominantly mono-racial societies such as in the Far East, do not suffer the same problems we do.

And it is a fact that there doesn't exist anywhere in the world, an example of successful multicultural and multiracial society.

dirtydog · 5 Feb 2011 at 14:58

If you have a developed and cultured society, and then you let people who have a completely different culture and set of values immigrate en masse, it is pretty obvious that this will upset the apple cart and make things worse. It is just common sense.

Castiel · 5 Feb 2011 at 15:00

dirtydog said:
Well predominantly mono-racial societies such as in the Far East, do not suffer the same problems we do.

And it is a fact that there doesn't exist anywhere in the world, an example of successful multicultural and multiracial society.

That is not true, Japan which is predominantly a mono-culture has a very evolved gang culture among not only the youth, but adult populations also.

Violence is just as endemic in Tokyo as London and is based largely on regional and familial demarcations and separations.

The same is true of China and much of the Far East. Ancient Tribal and Cultural differences are more pronounced than here, China for example has over 50 separate racial types indigenous to the entire country.

Deadbeat · 5 Feb 2011 at 15:02

dirtydog said:
If you have a developed and cultured society, and then you let people who have a completely different culture and set of values immigrate en masse, it is pretty obvious that this will upset the apple cart and make things worse. It is just common sense.

I find your definition of "common sense" erroneous, insulting and ironic. I think the most worrying thing about you is that you actually have some valid points speckling the drivel you post in these threads, and this could lead people to believe you're simply being rational and objective, whereas only through experience and insight are the trends of intolerance and racism really apparent.

deuse · 5 Feb 2011 at 15:02

dirtydog said:
Bottom line, multiculturalism and multiracialism don't work, they never have worked anywhere in the world and they never will because it goes against human nature.

Looks like David Cameron agrees with you!
"David Cameron has criticised "state multiculturalism" in his first speech as prime minister"

http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-politics-12371994

dirtydog · 5 Feb 2011 at 15:03

Castiel said:
That is not true, Japan which is predominantly a mono-culture has a very evolved gang culture among not only the youth, but adult populations also.

Violence is just as endemic in Tokyo as London as is based largely on regional and familial demarcations and separations.

The same is true of China and much of the Far East. Ancient Tribal and Cultural differences are more pronounced than here, China for example has over 50 separate racial types indigenous to the entire country.

Okay so if that is true, it is even more reason for you to agree that having multiple races and cultures in one place doesn't work.