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It is.

Do you care to offer a suggestion why?

A solution?

Are you going to try and defend his illogical presumptions that everytime its knife crime you can just automatically presume it is a black person?

Given the statistics, I couldn't.

With respect I have not presumed to identify the skin colour of anyone based on a particular crime, I have merely posted what is acknowledged as fact, young black men are disproportionately involved with gun and knife crime in London.

Has the problem been properly addressed or does the fear of being branded a racist hinder finding a solution.
 
With respect I have not presumed to identify the skin colour of anyone based on a particular crime, I have merely posted what is acknowledged as fact, young black men are disproportionately involved with gun and knife crime in London.

Good.

So if you don't have any further comment or solution let kwerk answer the charge now.

Has the problem been properly addressed or does the fear of being branded a racist hinder finding a solution.

How often do you need to point at the black man?

We know by way of statistics what is happeneing.

Thread after thread isn't debate. Its nonesense where little racists can pop out the cracks and say their bit. Look at 'dem god awful blacks.

Not one comes forward with a workable solution.
 
The solution I imagine is very complex. People will cite poverty but millions of people are poor and don't commit crime.

Opportunity is not limited in this country by skin race or religion, if anything we bend over backwards to accommodate the minorities.

So if poverty and opportunity aren't the problem, what is?
 
Please think about this and reply as relevantly and logically as you can. Let's be honest, there's nothing about variation in melanin that makes people want to commit crimes. Why then, do we have people arguing that black people are linked to crimes? (kwerk: remember that 50% of all knife crimes are commited by somebody who isn't black)

There is NO WAY. NO WAY AT ALL, that people can ultimately link being black to an increased chance of stabbing someone.

Let us assume a hypothetical situation: that in fact DD, Kwerk and co are right, and that blacks are a lot more violent, more likely to commit crimes etc. Is it because they're black? Really? How about this argument: black people tend to be poorer. Poorer people are more likely to commit crime, therefore, for any given black person, they are more likely to commit a crime than a non black. (remember, it's a hypothetical situation) Therefore, there would be a correlation between crime and skin colour, and a causal relationship between crime and wealth.

For the 50% of knife crimes that weren't caused by black: do you have data for the areas these were caused in, or the wealth of the people that caused them?

Here's another hypothetical situation:

There's a lot more stabbings in London that we don't know about. In fact, around 6% of stabbings are caused by blacks. But, blacks are much easier to catch than people of other races, therefore this pushes the statistic up to 50%. I know this sounds ridiculous, but I'm just trying to get you guys to question the real truth behind the statistics.

I actually ****ing hate these OcUK threads. It seems that the more sensible members appear not to post in them, and they just become a breeding ground for people who believe that immigrants are the cause of all problems.

Here is another theory:

Different races evolved over thousands of years in different environments. The process of natural selection shaped their DNA in different ways. DNA is responsible for the structure of the brain, hormone production and everything else which contributes to instincts and behavior. Could it be that a group which evolved in a tropical climate would not be subject to natural selection in the form of winter, which would cull anyone with genetic pre-disposition for poor behavioral impulse control? The people who could not delay gratification and store food for winter starved to death along with their offspring whittling away the genes responsible for such behavior.

Could there be a link between a impulse control, delayed gratification and long term planning and crime?

Now my question is why should the burden of proof be on ME to prove that environmental stressors caused different groups to evolve with varying genetic pre-dispositions to certain behaviors (like weaker impulse control for example). Why isn't the burden on proof on YOU to prove that everyone is equal?

Or don't you subscribe to the theory of evolution?
 
The UK has 4x the murder rate of Japan.

japan: 637 out of 127,000,000
uk: 1,201 out of 61,000,000

You just make stuff up as you go along don't you.

there were 1097 Murders in Japan in 2010, compared to 619 in England and Wales over the same period.
 
The solution I imagine is very complex. People will cite poverty but millions of people are poor and don't commit crime.

So immediately you discount one of the largest factors and motivators in crime for some unknown reason?

You wonder why people like you are shot down as racist?


Opportunity is not limited in this country by skin race or religion, if anything we bend over backwards to accommodate the minorities.

Now you sound like a racist tory now.

The Right use the argument of meritocracy so they can overlook social responsibility.

It makes sense that fascism exists on the right also...

So if poverty and opportunity aren't the problem, what is?

Racists like you.
 
Is one born in America, a native American?

Is a white person born in Pakistan, a native Pakistani? Do you think that other Pakistanis would consider a white person born in Pakistan to be a native Pakistani?

Use your common sense :)

I was born in England, my Father is Scottish, I spent 18 years serving in Her Majesty's Armed Forces, am I English?
 
If what you've just typed is true, then surely your statistic of '50% commit knife crimes' should in fact be higher?

Also... Africa itself is very violent in places too. Got nothing to do with an external stimulus generating an instinctive response brought about by one's own DNA.

Yet a disproportionate amount of young black men in London do.


You say that, but as I've said, I've yet to see the statistic for the wealth of the people who commited the crimes, and as I've said, I'm sure that it would prove my point.
 
You just make stuff up as you go along don't you.

there were 1097 Murders in Japan in 2010, compared to 619 in England and Wales over the same period.

Japan has twice the population of the uk though so per X thousand it's lower.
 
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