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@ Mr^B
My own response to you was also somewhat tongue in cheek and I am sorry if it made you feel like you had to substantiate your position. Perhaps in that respect you can appreciate how I too have felt throughout this entire thread?
I also agree with you that job satisfaction should never be undervalued. We spend so much of our lives at work that if one is not enjoying what one is doing one wastes a significant portion of one's life.
I do hope though that I have not given the impression that Career Smarts are about providing incompetents with the tools to rise in business. Quite the contrary it is about providing to those with competencies the tools to realise their full potential. Far too many highly capable individuals fail to realise their potential just through lack of a little lateral knowledge.
At the same time Career Smarts are not about job hopping unless there are very sound reasons for doing so. I have seen many excellent individuals whose careers have stagnated not because they themselves were incompetent but because they were caught in a log jam subordinate to an individual who will remain in post until retirement. Career Smarts seek to highlight to competent individuals the impediments that can exist to their progression and provide them with strategies, techniques and the confidence to circumvent such; be that internally or if no other option exists by moving employer.
Certainly having just taken out a three year personal contract hire funded by a CA may impede one moving to another excellent employer who only offers a CC. The impediment is not merely logistical but unavoidably also psychological.
My own response to you was also somewhat tongue in cheek and I am sorry if it made you feel like you had to substantiate your position. Perhaps in that respect you can appreciate how I too have felt throughout this entire thread?
I also agree with you that job satisfaction should never be undervalued. We spend so much of our lives at work that if one is not enjoying what one is doing one wastes a significant portion of one's life.
I do hope though that I have not given the impression that Career Smarts are about providing incompetents with the tools to rise in business. Quite the contrary it is about providing to those with competencies the tools to realise their full potential. Far too many highly capable individuals fail to realise their potential just through lack of a little lateral knowledge.
At the same time Career Smarts are not about job hopping unless there are very sound reasons for doing so. I have seen many excellent individuals whose careers have stagnated not because they themselves were incompetent but because they were caught in a log jam subordinate to an individual who will remain in post until retirement. Career Smarts seek to highlight to competent individuals the impediments that can exist to their progression and provide them with strategies, techniques and the confidence to circumvent such; be that internally or if no other option exists by moving employer.
Certainly having just taken out a three year personal contract hire funded by a CA may impede one moving to another excellent employer who only offers a CC. The impediment is not merely logistical but unavoidably also psychological.
I think it means buying a company car, even though you can't afford one, just in case your boss spots it outside the window and decides to give you a massive pay-rise.
I might have got that wrong though, it's hard to tell...
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@ DiamondMark
Now, now don't you start too.......... If I were to answer that in full the post would be book length and you've already seen how some peeps around here throw their toys out of their prams whenever they see a long post.......
Now, now don't you start too..........
If I were to answer that in full the post would be book length and you've already seen how some peeps around here throw their toys out of their prams whenever they see a long post.......@ DiamondMark
Now, now don't you start too..........
I swear to god no joke i only wish i could string a sentence together like you, i'd be a billionaire
Career Smarts sounds like a phrase the typical thing an over the hill manager in the 90s would have used because the American parent company sent them on a waste of time management course. It reminds me of that 'Blue Sky Thinking' bloke who was on the Little Chef programme.
Thankfully these kinds of 'mean nothing' phrases are dying out as quickly as they came along.
Thankfully these kinds of 'mean nothing' phrases are dying out as quickly as they came along.
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@ Wicksta
Nice one, Wicksta. I do wish my opposition would attempt to be consistent in their attacks. Many condemn me for explaining the realities of career progression strategies in detail (i.e. posting too long posts) and you condemn me for doing the exact reverse and using short-hand (i.e. the term Career Smarts).
I do wonder if you feel that there are actually any sensible and logical strategies one could ever adopt to progress one's Career or whether you believe one should just career about and keep ones fingers crossed.
Quite plainly there are strategies which are effective and its seems nonsensical not to put a name to them, as you appear to suggest.
As for gargon for the pure sake of gargon I am in agreement with you. I also agree that the Time Manager courses of the late 20th Century were a waste of time, just a marketing device by TM to lock people into buying sets of expensive proprietary stationery rather than just a simple diary and notepad or at worst a generic filofax.
Nice one, Wicksta. I do wish my opposition would attempt to be consistent in their attacks. Many condemn me for explaining the realities of career progression strategies in detail (i.e. posting too long posts) and you condemn me for doing the exact reverse and using short-hand (i.e. the term Career Smarts).
I do wonder if you feel that there are actually any sensible and logical strategies one could ever adopt to progress one's Career or whether you believe one should just career about and keep ones fingers crossed.
Quite plainly there are strategies which are effective and its seems nonsensical not to put a name to them, as you appear to suggest.
As for gargon for the pure sake of gargon I am in agreement with you. I also agree that the Time Manager courses of the late 20th Century were a waste of time, just a marketing device by TM to lock people into buying sets of expensive proprietary stationery rather than just a simple diary and notepad or at worst a generic filofax.
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If we're playing Bingo surely someone can shout 'house' by now 
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If we're playing Bingo surely someone can shout 'house' by now
Ah but neither a Bingo hall nor a Theatre can close until the audience leaves the auditorium. Your post establishes that the public still remain on site, does it not?
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@ Fox
Have you ever played, Dreams. Its a good party game. You send someone out of the room telling them you will be discussing someone's dream and when they come back they have to guess the nature of the dream that was discussed.
Actually the game is a ruse. Because the person returns and can only base their guesses upon their own experience of dreams, that is to say their own dreams. Revealing their own dreams and fantasies.
I take it therefore you are suggesting the way in which I might approach interviews based upon your own experiences and the way that you yourself approach them. Heck, matey, you really are in need of a little Career Smarts training if that's the way you go about them.
Have you ever played, Dreams. Its a good party game. You send someone out of the room telling them you will be discussing someone's dream and when they come back they have to guess the nature of the dream that was discussed.
Actually the game is a ruse. Because the person returns and can only base their guesses upon their own experience of dreams, that is to say their own dreams. Revealing their own dreams and fantasies.
I take it therefore you are suggesting the way in which I might approach interviews based upon your own experiences and the way that you yourself approach them. Heck, matey, you really are in need of a little Career Smarts training if that's the way you go about them.
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Ah but neither a Bingo hall nor a Theatre can close until the audience leaves the auditorium. Your post establishes that the public still remain on site, does it not?
I believe the Sun newspaper runs an online Bingo?
We should do an OCUK manager BS Bingo Card to moniter threads. You would be shouting house a lot
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@ Jonnycoupe
TBH mate I am more than willing to cede my position and confer "house" on my doubters if anyone can come up with a robust and compelling argument as to why the CA is the better choice; other than solely the short term maths of the moment.
As yet no-one has managed to do that it which strongly suggests that no such argument exists and that selection of the CA is based purely on a short-sighted approach.
TBH mate I am more than willing to cede my position and confer "house" on my doubters if anyone can come up with a robust and compelling argument as to why the CA is the better choice; other than solely the short term maths of the moment.
As yet no-one has managed to do that it which strongly suggests that no such argument exists and that selection of the CA is based purely on a short-sighted approach.
I take it therefore you are suggesting the way in which I might approach interviews based upon your own experiences and the way that you yourself approach them. Heck, matey, you really are in need of a little Career Smarts training if that's the way you go about them.
How can you have reached retirement age and never heard of Steve Coogan?
Because the car allowance does not lock you in to a particular employer or leave you subjected to the constraints of your fleet car list. You get the car of your choice whilst also bolstering your long-term financial position.
ANY argument involving an interview is just utterly ridiculous as has been demonstrated by legitimate posts time and again.
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@ DRZ
I take it your professional expertise is in cost reduction in that you favor cheap rather than effective shots.
The Alfa 159 was mine, for what little it is worth.
VFM Addict is chatting bubbles but I bet he is the sort of person that gets invited to parties for the great amusement of others!
I take it your professional expertise is in cost reduction in that you favor cheap rather than effective shots.
