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Is SB dead in the water already?

I was in two minds whether to wait and see what Bulldozer brings to the table anyway.

So after this I thought i'd wait.

It's certainly not "dead in the water" though, without AMD's new offering on the horizon I expect i'd have caved and ordered.
 
gropingmantis said:
Sandy Bridge is by no means "dead in the water" the SATA port "fiasco" is hardly an issue for most users as it only affects SATA-II ports. .
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I've missed the sata port fiasco, but, what? sata-2 are by far the most common ports in use, and considering hard drives are yet to saturate sata-1 having working next generation ones isn't really compensation. Sod buying a pci-e sata card to make up for Intel skipping on quality control.

mmj_uk said:
I'm waiting for Z68 myself before contemplating one.
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Yep, same here.
 
JonJ678 said:
I've missed the sata port fiasco, but, what? sata-2 are by far the most common ports in use, and considering hard drives are yet to saturate sata-1 having working next generation ones isn't really compensation. Sod buying a pci-e sata card to make up for Intel skipping on quality control.
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The 6 series chipsets have native SATA-III support and most motherboards are providing 2 extra SATA-III ports with other controllers. so with 4 SATA-III ports most people will not be using any SATA-II ports. SATA is forwards and backwards compatible so just plug everything into the SATA-III ports. Job done!
 
No. Simples.

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It only affects sata II ports from port 2 onwards anyway so you still have port 0 and 1 to use as well as the 2 Sata III ports and any additional ones provided by the board manufacturer. It's also only ment to affect 5% of the boards too. Its far from dead, its just a costly **** up.
 
Gazza123 said:
It only affects sata II ports from port 2 onwards anyway
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is that true?

so basically it is only 2 of the 8 ports on most boards then/?

if so i defo think manufacturers should offer a say 50 quid rebate along with mandatory firmware upgrade to disable them and then claim the money back on intel.

a lost of hassle saved on all fronts, would give me money in my pocket and should save intel a lot of money too.
 
OP has two questions: The first is the (trolling) question whether SB is dead already. Answer to that seems clearly to be no, since it is still the best stuff out there at the moment.

The second is the (more legit) question whether now is a good time to purchase SB. As posters have confirmed already in this thread, it does seem to depend on your own situation and how familiar you are with dealing with hardware stuff.

I have been saving up for a new system for some time now and I had SB in mind. This whole thing with the ports have certainly made me think twice of buying the stuff at this point. I just haven't decided whether it is worth going through the whole RMA process since I do believe that THAT process is going to be rather prolonged and painful.
 
Also... Not sure whether Bit-tech is a competitor as such, so not sure whether I can say this here, but their 'Hardware Buyer's Guide' for February is quite interesting for the question of whether to buy SB now or not.
 
I still don't get why people aren't recommending it.
You can still buy the motherboards and when time comes to RMA the downtime will be as long as it takes for you to replace the motherboard http://forums.overclockers.co.uk/showthread.php?t=18239738
No sending off your board and waiting for your replacement to be sent. They send you a board and once its in and working THEN you send back the old one. Easy.
 
Where's that Linus video again...

Personally, I would still go sandybridge 'right now', however, I'd also wait for Bulldozer too come out if I could. Will be an interesting battle. Intel is lucky in a way that Bulldozer is not yet available. Otherwise you could have already seen a mass migration to their new platform (if it's any good, of course).
 
VoG said:
really?

i just have, tis on the van & heading my way today.

the Sata port issue doesn't bother me, the mobo manufacturers have said they'll replace the mobo's so tis a non issue as far as i'm concerned how ever, that being said, it clearly has effected folks perceptions of the SB format, i think what will go some way to improving peoples perceptions of SB is how quickly the mobo manufacturers replace the defective boards, & how easily obviously.

if it's a straight pain free swap, then by the end of summer it will have been long forgotten, on the other hand, if you have to jump thru all manner of hoops to get your board replaced, that could potentially knacker SB for quite some period of time.
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It may not be a pain free swap if the controllers fail and important data or files become corrupted.
I am just building a a backup computer and need to use 5 sata connections ( Raid, 2 x optical drives and an SSD) .
I had intended to build the backup unit later and was originally going to build my SB system first ( with exactly the same set-up) but, given the possibility that the controllers may fail and data/files could be lost or corrupted, I've decided to wait until the chip problem is solved before starting the SB build!

However, I still think the SB system is great and will be a real winner once the issues are resolved! For some, the Sata issue... won't be one!
 
Voices said:
Also... Not sure whether Bit-tech is a competitor as such, so not sure whether I can say this here, but their 'Hardware Buyer's Guide' for February is quite interesting for the question of whether to buy SB now or not.
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Nope, bit-tech is a news site not a shop so it's OK to post the link. :)
 
This is the reason I always avoid launch products since there are always teething problems. Usually the problems are minor and resolved with software updates but it's not uncommon for more critical problems to come to light a few months after release.

If you're not willing to put up with these minor headaches you should not be one of the early adopters.

That said, I was pretty shocked with this fiasco given it's Intel and the boards have been ready for a very long time.
 
Tute said:
I was in two minds whether to wait and see what Bulldozer brings to the table anyway.

So after this I thought i'd wait.

It's certainly not "dead in the water" though, without AMD's new offering on the horizon I expect i'd have caved and ordered.
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SB is dead in the water for me as the only reason I'd get SB is because it is out now as opposed to Bulldozer which is not here yet, however I need to use ALL the SATA ports, by the time Intel fix the issue Bulldozer will be out and I'd just get that
 
opethdisciple said:
You say this isnt a major issue, but what do you call this:

http://news.softpedia.com/news/Inte...rd-AMD-s-graphics-Also-Sell-Less-183802.shtml

Scaremongory?
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That page doesn't say anything other than the flaw has caused people to act like its the end of Intel forever and stopped buying anything with Intel even vaguely associated with it.
It would only be an issue if notebook manufacturers have been putting devices on the SATA-II ports but I don't get why they would as how many notebooks use more than two SATA devices? Not many.
 
As a consumer, when you buy a product it should be 100% working with absolutly no faults.

The fact that any SB mobo come with this issue, means that it is indeed a dead platform.

Would you buy a car, if they said that a part of the engine will eventually brake or reduce in performance, but when it happens we will replace it for you free of charge?

Of course you wouldnt. You would either buy a alternative or wait for the problem to get sorted.

This scenario is bad.... nothing good about it.

The proof is in the pudding as they say. Reports around the web saying that Nvidia and AMD seeing a dip in sales of gpu's becuase of SB problems is all the proof neccessary really.

Im sure SB is a boomtastic platform but it needs to be fixed first.
 
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Fanboys and people who already paid for SB all agree that SB is fine. LOL

Sending back a motherboard because of a fault is a pretty big failure in my eyes. Intel lost a lot of money because of this fault and people who know what they are doing wouldn't use SB for 6months+ until all the bugs are sorted.

Short answer. Yes SB committed suicide and now AMD is looking like it'll come up with CPU of the year -- by default.
 
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