Mubarak Steps down.

This hasn't been a success yet, we are far to quick to speak. It'll be interesting to see what happens in the weeks and months down the line. It's easy to throw out a dictator but it's much more difficult to implement a new government that is able to govern effectively. It's even harder when the economy has gone to put, the question about foreign aid and import/export difficulties.

WingZero30 said:
Let this be a warning to all the governments around the world that if they don't listen to the aspirations of their population then same fate should be meeted out to them aswell.

Coalition government (Cameron & Nick) be warned:mad:. We are watching you:mad:.
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Yeah, we are watching them, doing a fine job.
 
I do love that people think its a great thing for the people.

Poor people are poor, thats how the world works, new party comes in, massively taxes the rich to pay for the poor, rich move, poor are utterly screwed, newly impoverished state to come out of it?

I really don't know how it will go, and I know Egypt wasn't the fairest society, but, neither is the UK, or the USA, or most "western" countries.

How much damage has been done to the economy in weeks of protesting, how much of a hit has the country already taken to the economy, how much more will be done before a government is installed, of the new government doesn't instantly make the poor less poor, despite the probably billions lost to the economy in recent weeks and the billions elections and transistion will cost, and the billions any new social economic plans will cost will they just riot again to get a new election?

I find it hard to see an upside to this situation, huge potential problems, and unfortunately they've really just hurt themselves badly as they'd cost the country so much money how do they expect to be better off afterwards?

Same as the stupid damn students, they don't want to pay for their own education, they want everyone to pay for it, even though theres more important things to spend the little money we have on right now.

THen they riot, which costs the country a shedload of money in policing, damages, businesses that shut down or got no business while the protests were on, which hurts the country financially even more.
 
drunkenmaster, you can't compare the corruption, authoritarian and totalitarian regime of Egypt to the few examples of unfairness that we experience in the UK. What the Egyptian people have been able to do in the last few weeks is massive. A few months ago, this wasn't even conceivable as they'd be rounded up and shot.
It might not be a success (or at least as much as a success as some dream of) but the simple fact that they did it and did it essentially peacefully is cause for celebration.
Yes, it's cost a lot of money but so what? Egypt has vast swathes of extreme poverty but it is also a relatively rich country. The redistribution of this wealth isn't possible under the previous regime but with the introduction of a hopefully fair and democratic country this might change. We should celebrate this, and support them but at the same time remember that the war hasn't been won quite yet.

Finally, it's quite insulting to the people of Egypt and the victims of the previous regime to suggest that they are the same as the student protests over here.
 
40% of Egyptians survive on $2 per day.

Note to any would be future dictators, to ensure you have at least some chance of success, at least make sure your people have basic amenities and are well fed ;)
 
WingZero30 said:
Let this be a warning to all the governments around the world that if they don't listen to the aspirations of their population then same fate should be meeted out to them aswell.

Coalition government (Cameron & Nick) be warned:mad:. We are watching you:mad:.
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Yeah! We want fair and free elections just like those Egyptians are going to get! That way we can vote for people we want in power rather than this Coalition government that no one voted for! Oh hang on, no, the situation is actually nothing like Europe and some people really need to wake up to the fact that Labour didn't win enough votes to stay in power...
 
stinka said:
40% of Egyptians survive on $2 per day.

Note to any would be future dictators, to ensure you have at least some chance of success, at least make sure your people have basic amenities and are well fed ;)
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African warlords disagree (as does NK) make sure they have no money and rely solely on you to provide it while telling them it's because of X minority/ethnic group and Y foreign power there is now food.


if they kick up a fuss like they Egyptians you cut off the food and water and starve em out.
 
Let them sort out their own destiny now, imho. Just hope for their sakes the transition period is short and painless.
 
Hopefully they won't be stuck with a "democracy" like ours.

Tefal said:
the students didn't even make up 0.5% of the population to give into their demands would have basically meant any tiny minority protest = get your own way and **** democracy.
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Well a petition with about 50,000 signatures got bdsm porn banned, so that would be business as usual.
WingZero30 said:
Let this be a warning to all the governments around the world that if they don't listen to the aspirations of their population then same fate should be meeted out to them aswell.

Coalition government (Cameron & Nick) be warned:mad:. We are watching you:mad:.
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Lol, the current government is far less authoritarian than Labour.
 
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Although I think its a good thing that a dictator has been disposed, I do think Eygpt will face major problems like any country post revolution.

From what I have heard and read, there are several opposition parties all with different policies and none of them will get a majority.

So we have a country with a power vacuum and however gets in faces massives problems. Would a coalition work? Who knows. Would the milatary take over if nobody comes forth? Maybe.

In 50+ years this might be the best thing that happened to Eygpt. For now, let them enjoy their partying and new found freedom as things in the short are only likely to get worse for them.
 
WingZero30 said:
True:(. Damn the public aswell for not supporting young people in this country:mad:.
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The young people didn't have a genuine grievance. If you actually understand how the system works all of their arguments fall apart. The misunderstandings were exploited and propagated by politicians and the media for their own ends.

"It'll put off people from poorer backgrounds...."
No reason it should, since you are only paying anything back after you graduate and have the same earning potential as everyone else.

"It'll put people off the liberal arts etc..."
No it won't. In fact people who get lower paid jobs afterwards will have an easier time of things because the threshold for payments has been raised. Anyone on an average wage or below won't be paying anything back at all.

"It's a huge burden..."
No it's not. You're not paying anything back unless you're earning a decent wage. It gets written off after 25 years. It doesn't affect your credit rating. With the threshold changes most graduates will actually have an easier time of things (paying back for longer, but less per year)

The only people the changes make any real negative difference to are graduates going into very highly compensated jobs, who aren't exactly struggling.
 
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Dave85 said:
Egypt is not iraq etc so stop claiming its now going to be run by terrorist and extremists. The people dont want it and the muslim brotherhood wont get it.
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This is a necro, but I had to pull this one back as 2 years ago everyone was saying hte muslim brotherhood would not take power in Egypt. Well they did and look what happened...................
 
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