Faith...

[Sayso]

I believe faith is a good thing, my mum is religious and when my Dad died she had the belief that he is in heaven with her Mum and Dad etc etc unlike me, i just drank constantly every night for 2 months and almost lost my job (while shaking my fist at the sky and offering god out for a fight )

Religion was invented to keep peasants in line...ie threatening them to be good in this life or burn in hell (im talking Christian here as i have no experience of other religions) by offering something that could never be proved untrue the Church kept a sort of peace. Now people are more educated that is taken care of by the morals of society religion is only for people that have no faith in themselves.

 

[Castiel]

No, it's worse than that, it all boils down to:

Non-Believers: You can't prove there is a god!
Believers: You can't prove there isn't a god!

And then Castiel will come into the Thread with 80+ Posts quoting Wikipedia to all and sundry as usual. And somewhere in the middle the Muslims will show up. It'll get to 6-10 pages and die a death, then on the third day it will be resurrected...NO! Wait...

Well, frankly if people didn't keep posting the same nonsense about religions and beliefs as fact, I wouldn't have to. Wiki is convenient, I never used to quote anything or use references until people like yourself kept whining about citations etc...

The thing about the thread system is that you do not have to participate, I like discussing the subject so I participate in the threads, if you do not, then why do you feel the need to?

 

[semi-pro waster]

I wasn't stating a truism for all Muslims. I was just stating that I am a Muslim, nothing more or less. It's as similar as someone starting their post with; "I'm a Christian", or "I'm a Sikh".

I was just trying to explain why it might have appeared to be arrogant even if the intention was simply to provide context.

This should be the default answer to any of these threads. I might start using this every time this stuff comes up. Cheers, semi-pro!

You're welcome, if you can make it shorter and catchier so much the better.

 

[Cosimo]

I've got faith:

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Yeah

 

[[FnG]magnolia]

The Reason as I don't question my faith is, because I've grown up choosing to believe and follow it. Yes as you get older, you generally start thinking deeper, questioning things and learning. But I've been that comfortable with it, that I've never needed to. I'm just happy with it to put it in simpler terms.

EDIT: Fair enough Magnolia, I'll leave.

No man, don't leave. It was an opinion and if you don't think it's fair then ignore it. An observation form some random on the internet (i.e. me) doesn't mean you should not respond if you wish to.

 

[RomanNose]

Faith usually comes about from gullibility.

 

[CD32]

The Reason as I don't question my faith is, because I've grown up choosing to believe and follow it. Yes as you get older, you generally start thinking deeper, questioning things and learning. But I've been that comfortable with it, that I've never needed to. I'm just happy with it to put it in simpler terms.

EDIT: Fair enough Magnolia, I'll leave.

If you chose then you had to question what you were choosing.

 

[Castiel]

The Reason as I don't question my faith is, because I've grown up choosing to believe and follow it. Yes as you get older, you generally start thinking deeper, questioning things and learning. But I've been that comfortable with it, that I've never needed to. I'm just happy with it to put it in simpler terms.

EDIT: Fair enough Magnolia, I'll leave.

Do you not question your faith as in the interpretation, or do you simply accept that interpretation of whatever Iman it is that teaches you?

Islam isn't about blind faith, however it is portrayed in the media.

 

[Castiel]

I've got faith:

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Yeah

Lol, I was waiting for your music video contribution....

 

[gropingmantis]

People, especially atheists, need to realise that some people need to have faith in something. Why they need faith is not for us to speculate. Personally I would say I was an agnostic. I have no issue with other people having faith what I have major beef with is organised religion. Organised religion has raped this world royally.

 

[Vita]

No man, don't leave. It was an opinion and if you don't think it's fair then ignore it. An observation form some random on the internet (i.e. me) doesn't mean you should not respond if you wish to.

Cba, as it turns into; 'There is no God' or 'Prove that there is a God.'

You can neither prove there isn't, nor prove there is.

believe in whatever you want but allow others the same rights and freedom, once you start to impinge on the rights of another then we have a problem.

Best quote for threads like these.

 

[Sayso]

Faith usually comes about from gullibility.

Gullible is a bit strong, a lot of people got taken to church at a young age when to be honest we are likely to believe anything, others have had some amazing coincidence happen to them later in life that they cannot explain any other way so they put it down to some sort of religious experience.

Personally my daughter has 3 imaginary friends we haven't got space in my house for another one.

 

[[FnG]magnolia]

Castiel, can I ask a question? Are many of the people who you worked with people of faith? How does one align a faith with a job where a large part of that job is to do others harm? Does it come into the equation on any level or is it completely separate?

I'm not trolling, I'm genuinely curious.

 

[^TANK^]

 

[Castiel]

Castiel, can I ask a question? Are many of the people who you worked with people of faith? How does one align a faith with a job where a large part of that job is to do others harm? Does it come into the equation on any level or is it completely separate?

I'm not trolling, I'm genuinely curious.

In my immediate 4 man unit, I was the only man without a faith.

One was a devout Muslim, he taught me Arabic and how to read the Qu'ran. The other two were both Catholic, although one was not really practising or specifically religious.

How they reconciled what we did with their faith, truthfully we never really discussed it, however the Muslim said that sometimes we must do distasteful things so that the majority do not have to experience them being done to them.


I think that individually you need to reconcile what you do with your own morals regardless of whether you have faith or not.

I sometimes envy my Muslim friend for the support emotionally his faith in God gives him.

 

[bash247]

I'm a Muslim also but I've never questioned my faith either as I'm comfortable with it.

To be honest I've been brought up to respect other religions and people's belief.

I won't be hating on anyone who is a Christian, an Atheist, Jewish, Sikh etc just because they believe in something different compared to me.

Most Muslims probably believe the same as me but there's always a small minority in all religions who have hatred between each other because they believe in something different.

REALLY grinds my gears.

 

[Castiel]

I'm a Muslim also but I've never questioned my faith either as I'm comfortable with it.

To be honest I've been brought up to respect other religions and people's belief.

I won't be hating on anyone who is a Christian, an Atheist, Jewish, Sikh etc just because they believe in something different compared to me.

Most Muslims probably believe the same as me but there's always a small minority in all religions who have hatred between each other because they believe in something different.

REALLY grinds my gears.

Do you question within your faith?

or do you simply accept what the Iman tells you?

 

[cm1179]

If you are religious, how do you rationalise yours? I realise you are not really supposed to, as it part of you, but surely you must question your belief?

I am an atheist so it is an alien concept to me. I just see no reason/evidence for the existence of a God.

I am not judging or saying you are wrong, just fascinated.

everything you've said can be asked of an atheist. you may not believe in god but you have faith in that non belief.

 

[bash247]

Do you question within your faith?

or do you simply accept what the Iman tells you?

I have never questioned my faith and I don't follow what the Imam tells me.

I follow whats written in the Quran and judge for myself whats wrong and right.

In the end, no one in the world is perfect.

*waits for verses of the Quran taken out of context*

 

[CD32]

I'm a Muslim also but I've never questioned my faith either as I'm comfortable with it.

To be honest I've been brought up to respect other religions and people's belief.

I won't be hating on anyone who is a Christian, an Atheist, Jewish, Sikh etc just because they believe in something different compared to me.

Most Muslims probably believe the same as me but there's always a small minority in all religions who have hatred between each other because they believe in something different.

REALLY grinds my gears.

To be frank bash.....no one really gives a **** what religion people follow....because we try to get on with our lives here...we don't generally hear of christians, Jews, Sikhs, etc,.....but we do constantly get bombarded with everything ending in the word >>muslim<< these days....so excuse any resentment from this non-muslim Country. You are a muslim...I don't care nor want to know....why keep on pointing out you are muslims???? (If thats not too bannish a para).