Can you ever go back from RWD?
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Any car can benefit from an LSD
Absolutely, but until i was corrected on this forum I though since my old civic had an LSD that the newer type r's would too. Now that i've drive one in the wet I see its obvious they don't have and that they bloody well should have.
It's propperly put me off ever having any newer type r, I just couldn't live with that complete lack of grip. If most people only have experience of none LSD FWD cars, i'm not surprised they have such a bad reputation.
IMO it is dependent on car and the chassis! I can't really blanket state how much is too much!
Take the Astra VXR, I know somebody who is running a far bit of power, 300 or so BHP I think (New turbo and other bits and bobs) It is a quick motor once running off the line, so hard to put the powerdown, come to a corner and you have to be very skilled to use the throttle going round a corner! It is all in the driver IMO! Using correct techniques and the correct amount of speed and throttle power and the VXR will be fine. Be an idiot and use the pedal like an on off switch and take it at speed and you will crash and burn so to speak!
I don't know quite what I am getting it, but a competent driver in any wheel drive based motor be it FWD/RWD makes the car what it is.
Once you get passed 300BHP IMO fWD comes a bit of a waste in that type of car.
Its what floats your boat I suppose.
There are some excellent FWD cars out there, to say they all understeer is true bit its all down to the driver. And the same is correct for RWD. Driven correctly they both offer excellent driving experiences
Ha hope all that makes sense!!!
Since when did a car need to be fast to be good
The AE86 is all about the chassis.
It's one of the last simple, well-balanced, neat handling RWD coupes produced.
Not really what I meant. Every AE86 owner i've heard of has had to tip 2-3k into it to make it any good
Any car can benefit from an LSD
Do they though? After reaching a certain amount of torque a LSD becomes essential where a standard diff would always end up spinning a single wheel and not moving very far. My car doesn't have a LSD and so I can get the power on much sooner through a corner where a car with one would end up kicking the back out. Granted I don't have an awful lot of power to my disposal, just light weight but this is still true for those who have taken their car to stage 2 (250HP).
Yes and no.
The Subaru Sedan STi I had for a day still leaned towards understeer when pushing too fast into a corner or roundabout but modulating the throttle and steering to control it was not boring.
Not really what I meant. Every AE86 owner i've heard of has had to tip 2-3k into it to make it any good
Similar can be said for Classics Minis, MK1/MK2 Escorts, beetles, etc
Actually, I'm struggling to think of many 'cult' cars that aren't a bit rubbish as standard.
It never took 2/3K for me to make my Escorts fun. A set of shocks, about £80, some lowering blocks, about £20 and a chop of the front springs. So total expenditure was about £100 in my case. Never had more fun in a car.
***** modding at it's finest.
Throwing money at something isn't always the best solution.
Well, currently in the process of selling my M3 after 6 years of RWD fun. Only had 2 fwd cars; an ST200 Ltd and current work slug mk3 Mondeo. The ST200 was a really good effortless cruiser and current Mondeo as it was cheap and the time and replaced my 2000E Sierra.
Had 5 Sierra's inc rwd Cosworth (for 4 years) so I'm def rwd through and through and although there are some good fwd chassis, I'm def looking for another rwd "good" car, either 330cd to use as an all-rounder or an E46 M3 and keep the Mondeo for work.
And yes, I will probably regret selling the M3
Had 5 Sierra's inc rwd Cosworth (for 4 years) so I'm def rwd through and through and although there are some good fwd chassis, I'm def looking for another rwd "good" car, either 330cd to use as an all-rounder or an E46 M3 and keep the Mondeo for work.
And yes, I will probably regret selling the M3
***** modding was when we 'decambered' the single leafs on a mk1 of mine using an oxyacetelene torch and bent them in one place with the heat.
Maybe if you'd driven similar cars you'd be less than 4 seconds slower than your 50-something dad in an Isle of Wight carpark 'track'.
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***** modding was when we 'decambered' the single leafs on a mk1 of mine using an oxyacetelene torch and bent them in one place with the heat.
Maybe if you'd driven similar cars you'd be less than 4 seconds slower than your 50-something dad in an Isle of Wight carpark 'track'.
40 something, and that was less than a second slower at the last event I was given a chance to
I agree. My DC5 out handles my old MR2 Turbo in almost every conceivable way.
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That's why I said, simply, 'no' - because at some point you will drive something and it will simply make you go "wow", irrespective of drivetrain layout - and you'll either not care, or not notice.
I suspect that some of the general public can't tell the difference in daily use, anyway.
I suspect that some of the general public can't tell the difference in daily use, anyway.
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40 something, and that was less than a second slower at the last event I was given a chance to
You must be properly bad at it, people get worse at motorsport as they get older. Look at the F1 grid. You are right in the prime age range for max ability yet you still get beaten every single time by a bunch of old men.
Maybe try golf instead?