Faith...

Islam to some extent wants global domination which you of course will realise but conveniently sidestepped the fact merely to try & score points.

Apparently I think the average muslim is part of some global conspiracy. They are your words not mine...again..sidestepped my response.

While people post on here airing their views & feelings, we have the likes of you trying to shoot them down as if you are good & they are evil..racists....scared..inadequate...(oh..another sidestep)...yet what it boils down to is you're a troll with your own inadequacies in life you seem to have the need to keep on fighting some "intellectual" war with post after post after....Castiel you kill a thousand threads dead with your drawn out crap.
 
CD32 said:
Islam to some extent wants global domination which you of course will realise but conveniently sidestepped the fact merely to try & score points.

Apparently I think the average muslim is part of some global conspiracy. They are your words not mine...again..sidestepped my response.

While people post on here airing their views & feelings, we have the likes of you trying to shoot them down as if you are good & they are evil..racists....scared..inadequate...(oh..another sidestep)...yet what it boils down to is you're a troll with your own inadequacies in life you seem to have the need to keep on fighting some "intellectual" war with post after post after....Castiel you kill a thousand threads dead with your drawn out crap.
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You are contradicting yourself. Islam wants global domination, but Muslims don't? :confused:

You haven't said anything of substance to sidestep, and there is a points facility on the Forum? I never knew.

I am a troll? you seem to be the only one stating that.

What you really mean is that you do not have a strong enough position to argue effectively so you would rather I step aside to allow you to rant on unchallenged.

Anyway you do not have to quote me. There is an ignore facility, use it
 
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Atheists do not believe in a god. Agnostics aren't sure either way.

What about the people that acknowledge that they cannot possibility be absolutely sure either way, but lend no credence to the notion of a god? Is that agnostic or atheist?

Before you say 'by definition you can't be agnostic if you lend no credence', this is not the same as being certain.
 
I haven't read the whole thread but in answer to the OP:

An evidence based arguement would be the origin of life, and the statistical improbability of even the simplest life forms coming about by random chemical reaction... Even a few proteins each of a few hundred amino acids each all being the right amino acid (and the same handedness, amino acids being chiral molecules) reacting by chance into the right sequence at the same time without the proteins simply breaking down in the process... The likelihood is pretty much zero.

Assuming that somehow, my arguement above has magically turned the whole forum into believers in a god, I'd say the life and character of Jesus Christ and the devotion of His followers after his death are part of the reason why I believe in Christianity.

I hope those who disagree manage to do so politely :)
 
ordinaryjoe said:
I haven't read the whole thread but in answer to the OP:

An evidence based arguement would be the origin of life, and the statistical improbability of even the simplest life forms coming about by random chemical reaction... Even a few proteins each of a few hundred amino acids each all being the right amino acid (and the same handedness, amino acids being chiral molecules) reacting by chance into the right sequence at the same time without the proteins simply breaking down in the process... The likelihood is pretty much zero.

Assuming that somehow, my arguement above has magically turned the whole forum into believers in a god, I'd say the life and character of Jesus Christ and the devotion of His followers after his death are part of the reason why I believe in Christianity.

I hope those who disagree manage to do so politely :)
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The origins of life may have been repeated billions of times across the trillions of worlds across the infinite galaxies that inhabit our universe. The statistical probability that we are alone is as minute as that of an anthropomorphic God.

Do you believe in God, or just the teachings of Jesus Christ?. (they are not necessarily the same thing)
 
Castiel said:
You are contradicting yourself. Islam wants global domination, but Muslims don't? :confused:
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Learn to stop "mis-reading"/shortening/fabricating what has actually been said in posts you are referring to. You have a habit of that.
 
Robbie G said:
Atheists do not believe in a god. Agnostics aren't sure either way.

What about the people that acknowledge that they cannot possibility be absolutely sure either way, but lend no credence to the notion of a god? Is that agnostic or atheist?

Before you say 'by definition you can't be agnostic if you lend no credence', this is not the same as being certain.
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Agnostic atheism.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Agnostic_atheism

I sit here:

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Ignosticism
 
Castiel said:
Like I said, say something of substance that warrants a reply, otherwise ignore my posts.
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Well I must be saying something of substance as you keep replying...or perhaps it's you who doesn't know what the hell you're talking about...

BTW...your last post to me which I quoted above, went from that one line, to about three line, then later on another line.....You clearly have issues. It's just a forum....get over it.
 
I am not a religious man myself, but I like what I believe is a philosophy taught in Budhism that you are entitled to think for yourself and believe things within your own reason..

“Do not believe in anything simply because you have heard it. Do not believe in anything simply because it is spoken and rumored by many. Do not believe in anything simply because it is found written in your religious books. Do not believe in anything merely on the authority of your teachers and elders. Do not believe in traditions because they have been handed down for many generations. But after observation and analysis, when you find that anything agrees with reason and is conducive to the good and benefit of one and all, then accept it and live up to it.”


and

“The mind is everything. What you think you become.”




Which kinda implies that there is no such thing as destiny and paths laid out by a higher power, opportunities don't open up just open because of a higher power, you made it happen. There is no such thing as chance, you made it happen.

You can't win the lottery if you don't buy a lottery ticket.
 
CD32 said:
Well I must be saying something of substance as you keep replying...or perhaps it's you who doesn't know what the hell you're talking about...

BTW...your last post to me which I quoted above, went from that one line, to about three line, then later on another line.....You clearly have issues. It's just a forum....get over it.
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Errrrr....I edited that post 8 minutes before you replied.


You still haven't said anything of substance however.

As for issues, you seem to have a strange need to continue arguing irrelevancies, like I have said several times, if you haven't got anything to say other than "Castiel is a Troll" then don't keep replying.

Who is the troll here?

I'm going to sleep now anyway, so goodnight, have pleasant dreams.:)
 
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Castiel said:
Errrrr....I edited that post 8 minutes before you replied.


You still haven't said anything of substance however.

As for issues, you seem to have a strange need to continue arguing irrelevancies, like I have said several times, if you haven't got anything to say other than "Castiel is a Troll" then don't keep replying.

Who is the troll here?
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My god. :(
 
Castiel said:
The origins of life may have been repeated billions of times across the trillions of worlds across the infinite galaxies that inhabit our universe. The statistical probability that we are alone is as minute as that of an anthropomorphic God.

Do you believe in God, or just the teachings of Jesus Christ?. (they are not necessarily the same thing)
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The Universe is not infinite though, and the statistical probability of life originating by chance are far too unlikely for even a Universe the size of ours. Even if there was a lifeform only requiring 1000 amino acids, the chances of those 1000 amino acids all being the same handedness is 1 in 2^1000 (about 10^300)... Estimates of the number of atoms in the Universe is 10^80. I know that that is massively over simplified in terms of numbers, but that is only a single requirement out of many for life... As well as all of the molecules which have reacted being the same handedness, they also have to be in the right order and all of the required molecules are conveniently together at the right temperature and right pH conditions etc

Life coming about without interference is practically 0... Even with 10^22 or whatever stars in the Universe, this can not compare to 'smallness' of the probability of the simplest life forms coming about by chance. The only thing which could make life likely is an infinite time span or a mechanism to create it.
 
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