Lying on your C.V.

kgi said:
Good luck to him because, seriously, A levels are not that important when you already have a good degree and go through several rounds of interviews.
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Most of the FTSE100 (grad schemes) seem to value A-levels higher than a degree, sooo...... The Big Four certainly do.
 
Never lie about certifications. For any qualified position they usually take copies of the certificates.

It's ok to be 'flexible' with experience though. Most employers have stupid expectations from their entry-level applicants.
 
Not worth the risk of getting caught out, that sort of thing spreads like wildfire amongst employers or agencies. Furthermore, if I'm asked about it and can't answer it then I look like a tool.
 
I remember the last thread we had about this on here. Some guy here lies about everything on his CV and was trying to justify it. Moron.
 
While it may not be illegal to lie on your CV you can certainly be fired for obtaining the job under false pretences. And as someone has said above, this could leave you seriously out of pocket.

It's not hard to use your CV to make the best of what you have without being dishonest.
 
Abraham said:
The only reason for this is you're usually applying during your final year, i.e. you don't have a degree.
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A friend got rejected from the Big Four, with a BSc, MSc and PhD purely on the basis of his UCAS points. He was even told this - it won't make it past first pass of HR. Another friend with a first class from Oxbridge was rejected for the same reason. It's ludicrous, but that's that.
 
meghatronic said:
A friend got rejected from the Big Four, with a BSc, MSc and PhD purely on the basis of his UCAS points. He was even told this - it won't make it past first pass of HR. Another friend with a first class from Oxbridge was rejected for the same reason. It's ludicrous, but that's that.
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because everyone will go through the same process, grad scheme entrance is usually a ridiculous farmed out process, there's a big amount of automated "cv" sifting, the first of which will be UCAS points, because it needs to be something they can apply to everyone.
 
Theophany said:
Implies he lied about A Levels. Didn't do to well in them, job required a certain number of UCAS points, so bumped up his grades.
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Implied, but by no means clear and so makes discussion a bit pointless.

Did he lie about his A levels to get onto the Business Management course and then get a job based on that degree?

Or did he get the degree and then lie about A levels, because the job required both A level qualifications and the degree?

Or did he actually not lie at all? As he's perfectly entitled to not put his A levels on his CV, even if the job states required grades. If they choose to employ him based on the info in his CV and his performance in the interview, then he's done nothing wrong - unless they specifically ask about grades and he chooses to lie directly.

As I said, OP requires more detail.
 
[TW]Fox;18521714 said:
Is this not a criminal offence?
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You're not likely to get done though, are you? More likely you'll just be fired.

At a place I used to work there was one guy who'd been there 18 months when it transpired he'd lied about having a degree on his CV. He was fired on the spot, and marched from the premises.

I'd never do it - you never know when it'll come to light.
 
[TW]Fox;18522610 said:
I provided a link to details of somebody who DID get charged with an offence for it!
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That seems to suggest that they made fake certificates etc, I can't see them being charged for forgery for changed grades on their CV. They could get charged with fraud, but I think it's highly unlikely in the situation of the OP where they're prepared to come clean about it once it's served its purpose.
 
div0 said:
Implied, but by no means clear and so makes discussion a bit pointless.

Did he lie about his A levels to get onto the Business Management course and then get a job based on that degree?

Or did he get the degree and then lie about A levels, because the job required both A level qualifications and the degree?

Or did he actually not lie at all? As he's perfectly entitled to not put his A levels on his CV, even if the job states required grades. If they choose to employ him based on the info in his CV and his performance in the interview, then he's done nothing wrong - unless they specifically ask about grades and he chooses to lie directly.

As I said, OP requires more detail.
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You can't lie about A levels to get on a University course, your results are forwarded by the examining bodies to UCAS which is then forwarded to Universities you have applied to. It's all automated and you have no opportunity to lie.

If he lied by omission by not stating his A levels he wouldn't have even been considered in the finance industry. I'm not 100% about how strongly they value them in relative terms, but from experience I do know that if you don't list them on your CV they won't bother chasing you up to find out. Applicants are two a penny.
 
Strife212 said:
UCAS points, what a joke. It's purely because it's some numerical way they can arbitrarily throw out applications to make their job easier.
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It can work both ways though, UCAS points seem to be the primary measure when it comes to clearing, I got an A and 3 C's at A-level, which I thought was a bit shoddy, but turns out in UCAS points it's the same as 3 A's, so everywhere I contacted through clearing offered me a place, presumably the people manning the clearing lines aren't trusted with more responsibility than tapping your grades into a calculator.
 
Freefaller said:
Not worth the risk of getting caught out, that sort of thing spreads like wildfire amongst employers or agencies. Furthermore, if I'm asked about it and can't answer it then I look like a tool.
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haha one of my 1st job interviews when i left uni I wrote i was interested in Politics and architecture.... NO idea why..

The guy started quizzing me about some of the new buildings going up in London and i just thought.. oh dear god.... I didnt get the job :D
 
The only time you would face legal action would be if your company decided to get the police involved, and I suppose that depends on the job itself and your position with them.

I would imagine most employers would just fire you for it.
 
You can never lie on your CV but you can bend the truth...

For example i couldn't just put i've got a BSc in Computing when i only did 1year of it

But i could put under competencies: advanced use of excel because its nothing that a polish couldn't sort out. I couldn't do advanced excel i.e. VLOOKUP/IF etc right NOW but give me a little time and i could learn it no problem.
 
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