Net migration rises by 36%, official figures show.

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http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-12535437

The level of net migration into the UK rose by 36% last year, Office for National Statistics figures show.

An estimated 572,000 people entered the UK on a long-term basis in the year to June 2010 while 346,000 emigrated.

Ministers want to reduce net migration levels, the difference between the two figures, to tens of thousands by 2015.

To help do this, the coalition plans to cap immigration from outside the European Union, a plan Labour says is "the worst of all worlds".

According to the ONS figures, net migration figures - which include asylum seekers and people whose decide to stay longer than originally intended - have been rising steadily since December 2008.

While the number of people settling in the UK on a long-term basis has fallen slightly, this has offset by a sharp fall in the number leaving.

Figures released on Thursday also show that of migrants granted settlement, the number of asylum-related cases went up to 5,125, compared with 3,110 in 2009. The number of work-related cases was also up, rising 4% to 84,370 compared with 81,185 the previous year.
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How on earth is the government going to reduce net immigration to "tens of thousands by 2015." that still means a net figure of up to 99,999.

We can't stop immigration within the EU, so what is the plan?
 
We simply need to have a economic case for immigration regardless of the country they are coming from.

Economic migrants are welcome if we have need and those who have nothing to offer are not, regardless of country of Origin.

The freedom of movement issue within the EU needs to be looked at again, it was all very well when the economic and living standard status of the countries it involved were similar, but now there is disparity between individual economies and the level of living standards it is weighted against the 3 main economic powerhouses in the EU.

It is no coincidence that those three countries Britain, Germany and France are now complaining about state multiculturalism failing.

A limit needs to be set that included ALL foreign nations, or the EU has to begin to compensate the countries which are most effected by EU immigration somehow.

We also have to separate the Immigration issue from a Race/Religion perspective as that only clouds the issue and encourages racism and far right nationalism, neither of which is helpful in integration of the disparate cultures we do have already.
 
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Let's make it less desirable to come here - cut benefits.

Wait, that'll hit our own homegrown lamers. We can't have that.
 
I'm all for immigration, when there are enough houses and jobs to go around. Oh and infrastructures that will support larger populations, everything struggles at the moment, NHS, road systems, sewage disposal, landfill. England is at critical mass (or certainly feels like it).
 
vonhelmet said:
Let's make it less desirable to come here - cut benefits.
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Given that migration into this country (excepting Asylum seekers who are not allowed to work) is almost entirely composed of people coming over here to work, and people coming over here to study what makes you think that would make any difference at all.

The Cons promise was stupid from the start, and we'll see its consequences in giving our education sector another kicking in the cretinous hope of meeting it by slamming down on student visas.
 
Mr Jack said:
Given that migration into this country (excepting Asylum seekers who are not allowed to work) is almost entirely composed of people coming over here to work, and people coming over here to study what makes you think that would make any difference at all.

The Cons promise was stupid from the start, and we'll see its consequences in giving our education sector another kicking in the cretinous hope of meeting it by slamming down on student visas.
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OK, so let's think about that. Our economy at that level is based on cheap foreign labour here or overseas. If we stop he cheap immigrants coming here, who does the jobs? Brits? Why aren't they doing the jobs right now? If they don't want them, they're lazy. If they don't want them because a life on benefits is preferable, then the benefit system is at fault. If they don't want them because the jobs are not well enough paid, then there is no way business will up costs to meet "demand" without passing the cost onto the consumer so then we don't really win anyway.

I'll concede that maybe benefits isn't the chief reason for coming here, but if they're coming for jobs, then the problem is even harder to fix.
 
Wonder how many of those immigrants were intra-company transfers? At a time when the unemployment rate is the highest for Computer Science graduates it seems a bit bizarre that we specifically excluded this type of immigrant from the cap.
 
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