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Unhappy with Card Spacing...

Firstly you should actually test the cards to see what temps are like. Just assuming is a stupid idea when you have spent that sort of money.

Secondly, if they are running hot, can you not attach a fan that blows over the graphics cards? A fair few people on this forum do that to help temps.
 
Puppetmaster said:
Firstly you should actually test the cards to see what temps are like. Just assuming is a stupid idea when you have spent that sort of money.

Secondly, if they are running hot, can you not attach a fan that blows over the graphics cards? A fair few people on this forum do that to help temps.
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There's quite a few reports like the post above yours of the temps being 20-35'C higher on the top card than the bottom card due to the restricted air flow.

I've used WC many times before, but I CBA with it now, hence why i've opted for the Corsair H50.

This is a pretty crap situation actually, running with 20-35'C added temps will absolutely gimp the lifespan of the card as well as having fun with crashes, artefacts and BSODs.

I was considering a 800D, but it seems from a few posts above that this doesn't help. I was looking for minimum expenditure too. :(
 
f00f1ght0r said:
There's quite a few reports like the post above yours of the temps being 20-35'C higher on the top card than the bottom card due to the restricted air flow.

I've used WC many times before, but I CBA with it now, hence why i've opted for the Corsair H50.

This is a pretty crap situation actually, running with 20-35'C added temps will absolutely gimp the lifespan of the card as well as having fun with crashes, artefacts and BSODs.

I was considering a 800D, but it seems from a few posts above that this doesn't help. I was looking for minimum expenditure too. :(
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800d isnt that great for air cooling, atleast mine isnt although ive not installed all available fans because i was waiting on my watercooling.

Could you not try adding a fan at the end of the cards?
 
its a bugger

i need this slot arrangement.

pcie16-blank-blank-pcie16

my second gfx card would also no fit in the very last slot, im not watercooling, i know it would end in disaster, im not getting a bigger case, but i would like a motherboard like this

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Puppetmaster said:
800d isnt that great for air cooling, atleast mine isnt although ive not installed all available fans because i was waiting on my watercooling.

Could you not try adding a fan at the end of the cards?
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I'm not really wanting to even run the machine with them in this compromised position - I had a pair of Nvidias a few years ago which were in a very similar position for a week before I installed watercooling. When it came to using them, the week of no-wc had damaged one of them so badly that it was dying even on 40'c max load with BSOD.

WC = warranty voided. So left me quite unhappy.
 
MichaelM said:
http://img814.imageshack.us/i/18122010558.jpg
700D with 6970's in the 1st and 3rd pci-e slots. You won't hear me complain about GPU length ;)
You get what you pay for and with high end equipment the tighter you try to budget the more headaches you will get, IMO.
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I can't tell if you're patronising me or not? In any case, i'll just expect that you're not!

So you have have success with the 700D, why did the 800D report problems - it is bigger is it not?!
 
f00f1ght0r said:
I can't tell if you're patronising me or not? In any case, i'll just expect that you're not!

So you have have success with the 700D, why did the 800D report problems - it is bigger is it not?!
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I'm very sorry if it came across as patronising. I simply mean with two high end cards its best to make sure they are as comfortable as possible within the setup so the added cost of such cases can really pay off with a better user experience. They certainty aren't cheap and people on here said that motherboard and case where a bit overkill when I was spec'ing the system but I feel completely justified for the choice as its so practical for the setup.

The 700D and 800D cases are the same size but some features not everyone uses where removed to make the 700D case. Well the only features missing I remember where the hot swappable drive bays and side window, both of which where of little appeal to me.
There are plenty of detailed reviews about both on youtube which also details all their features.
If you are considering it I can only offer the opinion that they are great quality and functionality so I feel I got the moneys worth even if I haven't used its full potential quite yet.
 
I am left with 3 options:

- Buy Corsair 700D
- Buy Asus Rampage III Extreme (next model up with 4 x PCIE Slots)
- Attempt to return/refund to OCUK (doubtful if this will be feasible)

HMM. The cheapest is the 700D, but that leaves me with a Cosmos S doing nothing! Suppose I could make a server out of it, or something.
 
Either way I do not think a x4 pci-e slot will limit the performance by anything noticeable in real world situations unless you are running very large eyefinity resolutions.

You may want to look into that further before making a purchase though.
 
f00f1ght0r said:
I am left with 3 options:

- Buy Corsair 700D
- Buy Asus Rampage III Extreme (next model up with 4 x PCIE Slots)
- Attempt to return/refund to OCUK (doubtful if this will be feasible)

HMM. The cheapest is the 700D, but that leaves me with a Cosmos S doing nothing! Suppose I could make a server out of it, or something.
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The 700d and 800d are virtually the same. The reason why my case cooling isnt fantastic is because ive not bothered to install all the fans i could, as i'll be switching to watercooling once ive got my B3 motherboard. the 700/800 d are more watercooling cases than aircooling.

I'm rather confused why you wont try to stick a fan at the end of the cards. It has nothing to do with watercooling and will not void the warranty on anything in any way, because its not touching any components.

Maybe you do not understand what i mean. From a top down view:

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GFX 1______|F|
----------- |A| <-------
----------- |N|
GFX 2
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I feel confident that the 1mm airgap will not sufficiently allow any fan to cool a 6970 that is being asphyxiated AND having heat from the card beneath dissipated into it.

If there was 0.5cm or 1cm gap I would do the additional fan approach, honest guv'na!
 
I personally wouldn't in any way move to a £300 mobo just to get better spacing.

Honestly, I'd go with a new case, because it will only help in the future. It will allow more options in terms of 3rd party cooling and future sli/xfire setups as you have more space.

I ended up going with a Haf, mostly because my older THermaltake Armour +(its HUGGGGEE) had a broken door panel and Thermaltake just ignore EU e-mails, couldn't sort out the right panel and without it well, cats who push my door open + computer on +nosey = bad :p

ANyway the Haf has a decent space between PSU and bottom of mobo, inteligently a little space above the mobo so doing things like attaching the cpu 8pin is actually manageable, and good cooling with all the fans set to run very quietly.

ANyway if that lets you run the current setup with gpu in the bottom slot thats great, if its a 4x slot I'm not sure thats the best way to go, but probably 16/8/8 on a x58 mobo.

If you had to change mobo though, I'd just ditch the mobo, and the cpu, and get a much cheaper 2500k setup, better mobos(when they work) and far better spacing. Its those daft heatsinks on the stupidly placed northbridge making so many of those x58 boards lose a few slots at the top.

Something along the lines of

http://www.overclockers.co.uk/showproduct.php?prodid=MB-166-MS&groupid=701&catid=5&subcat=1906 mSi p67 mobo, + 2500K is basically the same price as a £300 x58 mobo.

Obviously it depends, do you need 12gb mem for anything(as you'd be down to 4 mem slots).

hell you might be able to sell your cpu/mobo, buy a Sandybridge cpu/mobo break even. In most things it would be faster you can get any of a range of vastly cheaper just as good mobo's. You'd only be losing memory bandwidth you really don't need.
 
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