Subwoofer cable

lay-z-boy said:
Do you work for an AV cable company / hifi shop? Or just enjoy conning people into buying snake oil cables?
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All I've done is present some facts, backed up by links to the relevant manufacturers web sites. I'm not making outrageous claims or suggesting that his sub will be miraculously transformed. All I have said is that sub cables should really be 75 Ohm coax, and that a reasonable guide to performance is the attenuation figures.

If you'll get off your "rip-off / snake oil" high horse for a second and read my post properly you'll see that I offered some suitable sub cable for 20 pence per metre So that would be 5m for a quid. Had any one else in this thread offered or suggested something so economical before then? No!! So what's your problem?

I've also offered a much higher quality (and verifiably so) alternative to the £80 cable halliwelldj was considering for half the price.

So to recap, I've offered the advantages of the thin flexible Van Damme cable but at a tiny fraction of the cost (and even cheaper than the Fisual!), or the highest quality flexible sub cable saving halliwelldj £40

Honestly, do you really think those are such bad deals?
 
PardonTheWait said:
Well, quite - considering the noises subwoofers actually make, it's even less important!

They can't even make claims about airy, open highs and earnest vocals and fluttering mids.

Also, subwoofers are.... speakers.
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Well I haven't made any claims about "airy, open highs and earnest vocals and fluttering mids" either

And subs are amplified speakers - we are discussing the cable that is taking a low level signal from a source to an amp (in the sub) - it's an interconnect.
 
These are the bits, specifically, that got me:

lucid said:
I'll hold my hand on my heart and say that the Liberty Interflex SD I use is seriously overspec'ed for a sub cable. I use it because it's the best and I know there isn't a job it won't handle.
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lucid said:
But if you've only got a tenner, or you're sub is a basic one, then buy the Fisual. :)
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Once people start talking like that I can't take them seriously, if I'm honest. I just switch off.

You can quote as many facts as you want but I'd bet real money that if I went into your house while you were on holiday and swapped all your cables for cheaper ones you'd never notice.
 
lucid said:
PardonTheWait & Streeteh, we aren't talking about speaker cables.
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The same laws of physics apply to interconnects as much as they do traditional speaker connections. In fact, i'd say signal loss is even less of an issue with an interconnect.
 
i use cheap £5 fisual subwoofer cable for my B&W sub and it's fine. no need to spend a lot on cables. i tried/bought brands like monster, qed and chord over the years - it's all nonesense and a waste of cash in the end - live and learn.
 
If you'll get off your "rip-off / snake oil" high horse for a second and read my post properly you'll see that I offered some suitable sub cable for 20 pence per metre So that would be 5m for a quid. Had any one else in this thread offered or suggested something so economical before then? No!! So what's your problem?
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Under the condition that the OP picks up a soldering iron, which in the overall picture of things is probably not what is being looked for.
However my problem is this:

I've also offered a much higher quality (and verifiably so) alternative to the £80 cable halliwelldj was considering for half the price.
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And here's the problem; you 'offer' cable for 20p a meter and then shortly after justify a £40/£80 sub cable. When in reality the audible difference, if any will be pretty much/impossible to tell. Once we take in the frequency range of a sub, the fact is it a line level connect rather than a high current cable and the most probable short distance between the amp and the sub. Spending anything more than a tenner just doesn't add up.

I personally avoid bargain basement interconnects as I've been burned a few times before but I've had these fisual cables for years. They've been moved all over the place, are still working flawlessly and have not fallen apart. Thus, I stand by them.
 
Well I've gone for the tenner fisual cable after everyone saying they have it and it's just as good as the others. If I find any fault with it I can always get the more expensive option but with you guys saying you all have it no point in paying over the odds.

Thanks lucid for the offer of doing that though.


Don't know if people missed it but I'll try slip it in again :p
Save starting a new thread - I have my amp plugged into the sky box but the sound doesn't really match up that good compared to when I am using my iPod in the Onkyo dock I have, any thoughts on why this is?
 
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lay-z-boy said:
When you say match up do you mean audio volume levels, quality or audio/video sync?
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Quality in the audio, it seems to be quite a substantial difference between them on the same volume levels.

Don't know if this is to do with the dock improving the quality of the sound or what?
 
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halliwelldj said:
Quality in the audio, it seems to be quite a substantial difference between them on the same volume levels.

Don't know if this is to do with the dock improving the quality of the sound or what?
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What sound settings are you using on the sky box?
 
kylew said:
What sound settings are you using on the sky box?
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Was set to default didn't even think about that but it's set to Stereo and Dolby D. It's a Sky+ HD box and it's connected by 2 x RCA cable.

Forgot to mention I have tried it just plugged straight into the TV and it's the same so I have just left it plugged into the sky box for now.
 
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halliwelldj said:
Was set to default didn't even think about that but it's set to Stereo and Dolby D. It's a Sky+ HD box and it's connected by 2 x RCA cable.

Forgot to mention I have tried it just plugged straight into the TV and it's the same so I have just left it plugged into the sky box for now.
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Is there any chance you can connect it via optical?
 
A cable is only as good as the rest of the wiring in your system. No point spending hundreds of quid on a silver interconnect or such when the rest of the wires in your system won't be of the same quality.
 
halliwelldj said:
Here is the only inputs I have available on my amp. So I guess I'd have to get a Optical to RCA cable for that (if you can), would that make any difference though?
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You will need a DAC first, as optical is a digital cable and your amplifier is analogue only.

As it's sky I wouldn't bother. A DAC isn't going to do much when the source isn't great to begin with.
 
Thanks for the help. I wasn't planning to spend any money on getting the sound better anyways it was just to see if there is anything obvious I'm missing.
 
I have fisual cable, think I paid about £10 for 3-5m can't quite remember.
My sub works and I've still got the £40 in my wallet compared to the other cables in the shop. Job done!
 
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