Earthquake in Japan....9.0...ouch!

what was it?

I think its about the restrictions of access to youtube in Japan atm, they are also blocking or limiting access to other high volume websites temporarily, the reason apparently being the US (and probably other agencies) want to be able to use the public internet infrastructure where necessary for communications involved in search and rescue and probably the nuclear powerplant problems i.e. high res video feeds.
 
Apologies if this has been posted:

German Chancellor Angela Merkel has announced a "measured exit" from nuclear power in response to the crisis affecting four reactors in Japan.

Source

Quite worrying the power house of Europe has knee-jerked (with a hint of electioneering) its way to this decision! Others may follow - I suppose the ball is in France's court?
 
I think its about the restrictions of access to youtube in Japan atm, they are also blocking or limiting access to other high volume websites temporarily, the reason apparently being the US (and probably other agencies) want to be able to use the public internet infrastructure where necessary for communications involved in search and rescue and probably the nuclear powerplant problems i.e. high res video feeds.

Maybe to stop people from getting into a panic and making the situation worse.

I hope they get these reactors under control because it will cause lasting damage to not only Japan, but any thought of using Nuclear energy in general. Yes they have safer systems these days but that's what they said about Chernobyl when they were building the Japanese reactors.
 
Google "A Last Message Sent Out From Man In Japan"

Also checkout these links selling anti radiation tablets

http://cgi.ebay.ie/Anti-Radiation-P...t=UK_Health_HealthCare_RL&hash=item43a5e6a512

http://www.amazon.com/gp/offer-listing/B004HEPIMK/ref=dp_olp_new?ie=UTF8&condition=new
The tablets should be about £10 a pack, and they are making money off this disaster makes me sick.

They are only making money off peoples irrational fear. It's not as though they are selling essential goods.
 
Anyone trying to make a quick buck from the disaster in Japan will burn in hell. The Iodine tablets only stop a specific type of radiation in any case.
 
Great speech by Obabma on sky at the moment.

Shame that Jeff Randall is such a self obsessed ****
 
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Capitalising off vulnerable people... pretty despicable really... human race for you tho a cluster **** of stupidity.

This is basically what the pharmaceutical industry is based on. Selling drugs for hundreds of pounds when you can make them for a few quid.

Iodine tablets are pretty much useless anyway.
 
Could it be that the irrational fear of the people at large and the lack of political balls to force more plants down people’s throats might have had an effect?
Fear is a big part of it, politics also plays its part.

It was a governmental decision to forge ahead with magnox reactors despite concerns over cost. Part of the reason was to weaken the coal miners unions, part may have been prestige plus a plethora of other reasons I'm sure. We had the first commercial reactor in the world.

Magnox and AGR reactors are directly based on our atomic weapons program reactors and can be loaded to generate plutonium for use in weapons. I think plutonium forged in our reactors was being used for weapons purposes until the mid 90s.

I think another reason is the world priced fossil fuels too cheaply following the 70s oil shocks. The UK is set to largely suck our national oil gift dry in a generation having sold most of it in the $20-$30 range. Now the prices are going up our output is dropping 7% a year and we're an oil importer again.

It makes me sad we never kept our lead in nuclear technology.
 
This is basically what the pharmaceutical industry is based on. Selling drugs for hundreds of pounds when you can make them for a few quid.

That ignores the cost of discovering how to make them in the first place. Same applies to intel, making cpu out of sand and plastic and charging 20x what it costs them to make
 
Because that would make it even more complex to maintain. This reactor is a 40 years old design. Modern reactor designs can cool the residual heat without needing active cooling systems, so what we're seeing is a problem that has already been solved on any reactor that's built now.

The backup generators were underground actually and apparently died when the circuitry was flooded. What I don't know is, could the underground area be sealed off at all, even if it could you'd assume its normal operation after the earthquake would have opened them up.

I guess future design improvements that could have probably prevented the accident could be as simple as a huge chimney stack sticking out of the Turbine buildings(I'm under the impression the generators were beneath the turbine buildings) so they can get air to run/cool/etc but the building is essentially sealed up to roof level to prevent flooding.

I really haven't seen much on passive cooling, always better to have more redundancy but I'm assuming theres still ways passive cooling(I assume based on large surface area's and some airflow?) can fail, buildings getting some damage and holes getting blocked, various reasons decay heat doesn't fall fast or in the case of burning rods or coolant leak, increases, what level is passive cooling able to actually cool.

Realistically accidents will continue to happen even in the best designed plants, and then, we'll learn and make better plants.

I think one of the biggest dangers is unlike so many other industries, someone makes a fatal flaw in a car, its replaced in a year and maybe fixable on the go, nuclear power plants are designed to go for decades, are very expensive to build, expensive to close, and expensive to clean up so even if someone designed a supposedly fool proof design tomorrow, 99% of world nuclear power would be pretty old and more vunerable designs.

Like I've said, we should be aware of the risks but the alternatives are in my opinion, much worse, eventually running out of power, society without real levels of power, its almost unthinkable.

They are only making money off peoples irrational fear. It's not as though they are selling essential goods.

Yeah, I posted a quoted story, rather than like in the UK/USA where a bottle of water at a local store would have cost £5, some guy overcharged him for fruit, got on his bike, caught him at the station and gave him the right change.

This is basically what the pharmaceutical industry is based on. Selling drugs for hundreds of pounds when you can make them for a few quid.

Iodine tablets are pretty much useless anyway.

Throat cancer is pretty "easy" to get when Iodine 131 is lurking about and its made in pretty large quantities when the nuclear reaction is going(and fast decaying when not) and iodine tablets are actually a VERY effective way to prevent thyroid cancers. Though, Thyroid cancer is almost completely survivable these days, better to not have to go through treatment if you don't want to. Also companies make pretty huge profits, but not always disgusting when you realise how big they are. They pump SO much money into research , often on research that goes no where, if there weren't large profits available, they wouldn't put so much money into research for treatments for rare cancers and the like.

Its capitalism, nothing "good" gets done unless their profit in it :(
 
What bothers me the most is that the Government is wasting money keeping troops in foreign countries like Iraq when we should be helping our own economy and the likes of Japan who are in serious trouble instead of trying to kill people.. Lets try and help our own country and perhaps even others... now there's an idea!!
 
Isn't it ironic that the disaster at Fukushima was a result of the reactors automatically shutting down?

It amazes me they didn't consider this eventuality.
 
Think he is making the point that if in theory the reactors stayed on they would have carried on powering the normal cooling systems.
No idea whether that would have really worked though :)
 
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