Earthquake in Japan....9.0...ouch!

Not sure if someone's already posted in earlier but, Martyn Poliakoff (one of my old lecturers) explains the nuclear situation really well in this video.

 
I haven't watched it but I already believe him as one of the best experts so far consulted on the situation, why? He has the hair of an incredibly inteligent scientist, anyone can BS their way through an interview, but only the best and brightest have crazy scientist hair.
 
Nah be honest. It is that WILD hair that did it for you! :p

Ok I just read to the end of your post and now I feel like, silly.
 
tru tru

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Japan to use an extra 200,000 barrels of oil a day to makeup missing energy production

http://www.ogj.com/index/article-di...cks&utm_source=twitterfeed&utm_medium=twitter


UN approves no fly zone over Libya, bit late..


Approvals suspended

Earlier this week, China announced that it had suspended approval for nuclear power plants across the country, halting a development program that accounts for nearly 40% of the world’s planned reactors.

“Until the [new] nuclear safety plan is approved, we will suspend approvals of new plants including those in the predevelopment phase,” China’s State Council said on Mar. 16. “We must fully understand the urgency and importance of nuclear safety.”

With global uranium prices falling 25% cent since the Mar. 14 shutdown in Japan, any long-term change in China’s nuclear program would likely have major ramifications for global uranium miners like Cameco, Rio Tinto, and BHP Billiton.
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Macky said:
Nah be honest. It is that WILD hair that did it for you! :p

Ok I just read to the end of your post and now I feel like, silly.
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To be fair there are other scientists who are great who don't have the crazy hair, they do have the crazy eyes though. Best science teacher I had was literally a nut ball and he stared at people with the crazy eyes.

Infact, crazy is the running theme, best maths teacher I had at school would randomly wonder out of class and just roam the halls singing to himself, that guy was batguano crazy.
 
Holy crap were they being cagey about radiation yesterday when they wouldn't give ground level readings. They are now saying at a point 1km west of the reactor 2 it was 279.4milliSV at 5am their time(a few hours ago) down from 292.2 milliSv at 8.40pm the night before.

Jesus, 1km West, thats a decent distance and thats pretty huge levels, 1,000 milliSv is the point you start getting radiation sickness. A day ago, or two days ago now they were giving out the gate numbers of sub 10milliSv and saying it wasn't bad, while also evacuating everyone for most of the day. That 292.2 number is almost a day after they evacuated, and those aren't numbers around the reactor which, are probably significantly higher.

The numbers are, leaking out slowly and, I really think are generally being hidden. Readings from between the reactors I think would be rather worrying. I would also think considering they spoke with Embassies a couple days ago and the US has done its own radiation scans the big evacuation zones the UK/USA are recommending aren't based on panic, but readings that the Japanese just aren't releasing publically.
 
People must be panicking with the Japanese governments lack of frankness, it always leads to rumour and speculation when governments try to hide things as people always assume the worst case Chernobyl scenario with 1,000Sv or something.
 
mithrandir said:
Just been trying to catch up with today's events. Seems like one of the pics show a reactor fully exposed with the pool dried out and rods out in the open. [source]
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Except all it shows is a green crane. It is assumed that it is dried out exposed fuel rods, but you cannot actually tell from that shot.

/devils advocate
 
drunkenmaster said:
Holy crap were they being cagey about radiation yesterday when they wouldn't give ground level readings. They are now saying at a point 1km west of the reactor 2 it was 279.4milliSV at 5am their time(a few hours ago) down from 292.2 milliSv at 8.40pm the night before.

Jesus, 1km West, thats a decent distance and thats pretty huge levels, 1,000 milliSv is the point you start getting radiation sickness. A day ago, or two days ago now they were giving out the gate numbers of sub 10milliSv and saying it wasn't bad, while also evacuating everyone for most of the day. That 292.2 number is almost a day after they evacuated, and those aren't numbers around the reactor which, are probably significantly higher.

The numbers are, leaking out slowly and, I really think are generally being hidden. Readings from between the reactors I think would be rather worrying. I would also think considering they spoke with Embassies a couple days ago and the US has done its own radiation scans the big evacuation zones the UK/USA are recommending aren't based on panic, but readings that the Japanese just aren't releasing publically.
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Looks like somebody ballsed up again (EDIT: that wasn't a jab at you). NHK is quoting them as saying 292 micro seiverts at 1km west. http://www3.nhk.or.jp/daily/english/18_05.html Kyodo news also reports in microsieverts.
 
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If those numbers really are 1km away from the gate, then I'd imagine numbers near the reactor are, well, not good.

Chernobyl, afaik, was varying between 10sv and 300sv, or 10,000-300,000milliSv, it wasn't as high as you think because you often see it listed in milli rather than just Sv. Chernobyl numbers, for those that got really close soon after it went was just, death. :(
 
lord filbuster said:
Looks like somebody ballsed up again (EDIT: that wasn't a jab at you). NHK is quoting them as saying 292 micro seiverts at 1km west. http://www3.nhk.or.jp/daily/english/18_05.html Kyodo news also reports in microsieverts.
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Hmm, refreshed page(probably 10-15minutes ago I saw it) now says micro, sure it said milli before, well 98%.

Thats far less worrying, though would like to know where the gate is, is that roughly 1km west? Because they were reporting 6.4 at peak and mostly around 2000-2500microSv at the gate all yesterday. Seems weird they'd mention the 15micro Sv drop and not the 2000 drop from the day before.

INfact, the numbers aren't adding up, seriously why would a 15microSv drop be "news" when it was flucutating by hundreds more than that yesterday.

Doesn't help when Edano occasionally(and that guy has barely slept so who could blame him) accidentally said the numbers were 1000 milliSv at the gate a few days ago before the guys doing the follow up conference panicked and made sure to correct it to micro :p This all because the micro sign is hard to get done on a keyboard/webpages, mSv and a easy to use "micro symbol" Sv would make life so much easier.


NEws ticker saying they are aiming to get electricity to reactors 3 and 4 by Sunday. I know they were trying reactor 2 first as they said it had less electrical problems than the other two. Not sure if thats in the control/turbine buildings or wiring that would have been around/going through the damaged walls maybe. They had said they were hoping to get electricity back a day ago so taking a lot longer than they hoped, with 2 more days before they can maybe get the 2 worst reactors cooling systems online. Of course they've also said getting it back online is also down to getting people close enough to be able to do it so that could be the reason.
 
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drunkenmaster said:
If those numbers really are 1km away from the gate, then I'd imagine numbers near the reactor are, well, not good.

Chernobyl, afaik, was varying between 10sv and 300sv, or 10,000-300,000milliSv, it wasn't as high as you think because you often see it listed in milli rather than just Sv. Chernobyl numbers, for those that got really close soon after it went was just, death. :(
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Yeah, the documentary I saw last year was harrowing. Of course, it was all Roentgens then. High enough that each man could only clear debris for 30 seconds at a time, even covered in lead. They went onto the roof, flipped a piece of highly radioactive debris off, then ran back downstairs! Unbelieveable really.
 
drunkenmaster said:
Hmm, refreshed page(probably 10-15minutes ago I saw it) now says micro, sure it said milli before, well 98%.

Thats far less worrying, though would like to know where the gate is, is that roughly 1km west? Because they were reporting 6.4 at peak and mostly around 2000-2500microSv at the gate all yesterday. Seems weird they'd mention the 15micro Sv drop and not the 2000 drop from the day before.

INfact, the numbers aren't adding up, seriously why would a 15microSv drop be "news" when it was flucutating by hundreds more than that yesterday.

Doesn't help when Edano occasionally(and that guy has barely slept so who could blame him) accidentally said the numbers were 1000 milliSv at the gate a few days ago before the guys doing the follow up conference panicked and made sure to correct it to micro :p This all because the micro sign is hard to get done on a keyboard/webpages, mSv and a easy to use "micro symbol" Sv would make life so much easier.
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Indeed, they should really use scientific notation instead. I'm entirely sure that they mean micro not milli.
 
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