RBS 6 Nations Rugby

semi-pro waster said:
I'll admit I don't understand all the rules either but as far as I'm aware it didn't need to be a yellow card as it wasn't dangerous or a cynical prevention of a a certain try. I suspect that the ref just wanted a bit of peace and quiet since he'd already told off Barclay for how much he was talking - sadly or otherwise it was his last action before leaving the pitch himself.
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That's what I thought - the ref was fed up with the chat and had warned Barclay to zip it.

Well done Scotland though - a big improvement. I thought England were trying too hard at times, one too many offloads, that sort of thing.
 
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semi-pro waster said:
Well done to England, not the most convincing win but it's enough. Scotland restored a little bit of pride I'd say.
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#Chri5# said:
That's what I thought - the reg was fed up with the chat and had warned Barclay to zip it.

Well done Scotland though - a big improvement. I thought England were trying too hard at times, one too many offloads, that sort of thing.
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Agree with both points, although its not always a case of trying too hard - Scotland always raise their game for England, and it's always a hard physical slog rather than a free flowing game of attack. But thats good for both sides - hopefully give Scotland some confidence because they will be really unlucky if they don't get a win this 6 nations, and for England this is exactly the kind of result they need to grind out if they're to get anywhere at the World cup.
 
The captain is the only one meant to talk to the ref, scrum half's normals chat a bit tho at the brake down. It more play it by ear to the ref, He clearly didn't like it and the Scottish 7 should have just stopped.

He fouled in the Red zone the card was justified but maybe a little on the hearse side, but you cant go on about this that and the other and then not expect to be judge.

Tho i dont think any on this had anything to do with the card. Scotland were all-over the ball and often on the edge or past it legally at the brakedown.
 
I'd read about Hape's tackle rate over the Six nations so paid a little more attention this week and was really impressed. It seemed like everyother tackle in the first 20 minutes was Hape and still high for the rest of the game.

Can't decide if England are on the verge of being quite useful of flattering to decieve. Certainly they are showing more adventure but not enough nastiness. Each runner going to ground should be followed by 2 or 3 players destroying anyone daring to play the ball or counter ruck but instead there is too much hanging around waiting for the next phase. England need a Bakkies Botha ready to smash every ruck they can get to and intimidate the opposition at the breakdown.

Case in point Scotland were rarely punished by the ref or the England players for loitering in the tackle zone. A vicious clear out early on would have scuppered that tactic but instead it was allowed to continue and paid Scotland excellent dividends.
 
Final day today for this year so I'm about to head off soon for beer and snacks to see it through. Hoping for a Scotland victory first up and then I can settle down to enjoy the other games properly but I'm certainly not expecting it.
 
semi-pro waster said:
Final day today for this year so I'm about to head off soon for beer and snacks to see it through. Hoping for a Scotland victory first up and then I can settle down to enjoy the other games properly but I'm certainly not expecting it.
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To be honest with the way Italy have been playing (constantly performing good in the pack/set pieces) I think Scotland will strugle today. I'm hoping the Irish don't turn up like they haven't for the rest of the 6 nations but like last week you can never tell when it's against England.

Don't really care about the last game but hope the French stuff the Welsh and that annoying **** Jonathan Davies chokes on the score.

KaHn
 
So what happens if England have a narrow loss today to Ireland?

Am I right in thinking they win the 6 nations (as everyone else has lost at least 1 match also) but they dont get the grand slam?
 
Yeah England will in all likely hood win the six nations regardless of todays result, needs a 42 point swing in points difference in Wales favour for them to win it (e.g. Wales beat France by 20 odd points and England lose to Ireland by 20 odd points both highly unlikely)

But England need to win to get the grand slam (and triple crown for that matter)
 
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Just out of interest - is it quite common for the winner of the 5 / 6 Nations to do the grandslam?

I know England last did the slam in '03, but France and Wales at the very least have done it at least once (each) since havent they?
 
KaHn said:
To be honest with the way Italy have been playing (constantly performing good in the pack/set pieces) I think Scotland will strugle today. I'm hoping the Irish don't turn up like they haven't for the rest of the 6 nations but like last week you can never tell when it's against England.
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That's precisely why I'm hoping for rather than expecting a Scotland win, in the Ireland and Wales games Italy can consider themselves somewhat unlucky not to have won or drawn - if Bergamasco had been kicking as well throughout as he did against France I think Italy would be sitting on 4 or possibly even 6 points. They were outclassed vs England but that shouldn't detract too much for what has been a promising tournament for them.

KaHn said:
Don't really care about the last game but hope the French stuff the Welsh and that annoying **** Jonathan Davies chokes on the score.

KaHn
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I'm with you on that one.

FrankJH said:
Cheers

Just out of interest - is it quite common for the winner of the 5 / 6 Nations to do the grandslam?

I know England last did the slam in '03, but France and Wales at the very least have done it at least once (each) since havent they?
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Obviously you need to win the 5/6 Nations to win the Grand Slam but I wouldn't have said it was all that common. I was going to guess at somewhere slightly under half the time but decided to check Wikipedia on it, it looks as if it has become slightly more common once it turned into the 6 Nations but it's probably a bit too early to take a proper trend from it.
 
semi-pro waster said:
Obviously you need to win the 5/6 Nations to win the Grand Slam but I wouldn't have said it was all that common. I was going to guess at somewhere slightly under half the time but decided to check Wikipedia on it, it looks as if it has become slightly more common once it turned into the 6 Nations but it's probably a bit too early to take a proper trend from it.
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7/11 times 6 nations has been won by a grand slam as you said and that could rise to 2/3 of the times today - quite a high proportion imo ( but I take your point that its a pretty new competition) :)
 
FrankJH said:
7/11 times 6 nations has been won by a grand slam as you said and that could rise to 2/3 of the times today - quite a high proportion imo ( but I take your point that its a pretty new competition) :)
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Yeah, 2/3 is quite high so it's interesting that with another team added that the rate of Grand Slam to overall wins has been improved but maybe that'll revert lower as years go on.

Glad to see Scotland win today and reasonably convincingly too with a couple of tries scored.
 
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