Weird dealership offer - opinions please!
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I'll be asking for a discount on the list price, too though. We don't need a new car, so I've told him he'll have to work pretty hard!
Learned a lot from this thread, though. I'm pretty undereducated about all this
Why are you considering wasting money then?
I'll be asking for a discount on the list price, too though
A deal on the list price is not a separate entity.
The dealers have a profit margin on the vehicle and can provide a "deal" within that margin. How they work that deal is irrelevant.
One customer may come in and get £5k off of list price but a poor trade-in value. One customer a high trade-in value (wow, they gave me £500 more than parkers say!) but then less discount as the previous customer off of the list price.
I imagine most customers get a good balance of the two and they think they have worked some unique cracking deal but the dealer still makes pretty much the same profit margin as he would from every other customer.
i dont understand your car works perfectly i must be wierd buying 5 year old jobs and running them for another 10. What does the new one do that the old doesn't? toys are toys really. If it works keep it mate and bank the money for something that could be classed as an asset rather than an outgoing
i must be wierd buying 5 year old jobs and running them for another 10. What does the new one do that the old doesn't? toys are toys really. If it works keep it mate and bank the money for something that could be classed as an asset rather than an outgoing
You definitely need to look at the whole deal, not treat the part ex separately. Work out how much changing car is actually going to cost you.
As a comparison on a new car, maybe have a look at www.drivethedeal.com for how much you could get the new car for. Drivethedeal cars are sourced from main dealers with you as first keeper and you'll see straight away that they're usually a few grand off list price. They don't part exchange though.
But yeah, as the others have said, it doesn't sound like you really want a different car.
As a comparison on a new car, maybe have a look at www.drivethedeal.com for how much you could get the new car for. Drivethedeal cars are sourced from main dealers with you as first keeper and you'll see straight away that they're usually a few grand off list price. They don't part exchange though.
But yeah, as the others have said, it doesn't sound like you really want a different car.
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Why are you considering wasting money then?
Just because I don't 'need' a new car doesn't mean I don't want one. I bet a high proportion of people who buy cars (or any item for that matter) don't actually 'need' a new car.
I'm beginning to see why the dealer chose Forde to contact like this - I bet you got a great special deal on the Note too?
You must be on the "We saw you coming" list!
Hardly. I'll only be upgrading if we end up spending less per month, or if we get more for our money at a very small increase. Where's the naivety in that?
How have you gone from:
To spending nearly £15k on a car that you don't really 'need'?
Edit - Oh I see, mis-read the 1st post, it's been 2 years so I guess you are in a better position now.
To spending nearly £15k on a car that you don't really 'need'?
Edit - Oh I see, mis-read the 1st post, it's been 2 years so I guess you are in a better position now.
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Hardly. I'll only be upgrading if we end up spending less per month, or if we get more for our money at a very small increase. Where's the naivety in that?
None at all, when I did the swap on ours cars earlier this month we made the same choices. If the monthly costs stay roughly the same why not...
...Sounds like you may be heading for trouble later on then.
My car once got a bacterial infestation in the aircon after it had been standing for a few weeks. Disgusting smell. I would use aircon at least once a week to avoid that happening.
Alternatively Halfords sell an aircon disinfectant kit for about £11. Very easy to use - any fool could do it. Main dealers charge a lot more to do this.
Alternatively Halfords sell an aircon disinfectant kit for about £11. Very easy to use - any fool could do it. Main dealers charge a lot more to do this.
Partially due to unexpected popularity and partially due to long term bobcrowismic inefficiency of Sunderland plant (historically geared for production of cars no one wanted - Almera/Primera etc rather than cars that were calculated for volumes of 500,000 but unexpectedly hit 1,000,000 mark like Qashqai) Nissan has currently very long waiting lists (over 6 months) for Juke and Qashqai.
Now, because of pan-european legislation they now kind of need to offer courtesy rides to all the customers they accepted deposits from and promised cars in 3 months, but could not deliver any vehicle at the agreed date, and need to postpone it by another 3-5 months instead. In a moment of sheer madness, in February this year, heads of Nissan announced that all the "foxtrotted about" Juke buyers
will get a loan Micra, while those waiting for Qashqai or Qashqai +2 will get a Nissan Note on loan until their rides materialise.
First part of the plan relies on Renault plant in Chennai, India. And if you ever saw the new 2011 Micra that replaced the UFO shaped one - you know this car cannot sell, will not sell, so there is no immediate problem of shortages - unless you give them away, this car will sink in a market like any other Rover CityRover (over), VW Fox kind of "let's make **** car, ideally something that looks like a 15 year old Daewoo Matiz, preferably made as joint venture somewhere in third world country for 50 pence and lollypop and try to flog it to Europeans at premium prices" idea before it.
The problem with second part of this plan, however, is of a snake eating its tail type - if Sunderland cannot make Qashqais fast enough, how could Sunderland factory make Notes fast enough to give to people in the queue created by Sunderland itself. And hence possibly the "buy out" of second hand Notes?
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There is no special deal here at all. All they are going to do is try and make you buy a new car - its the job of the dealer to this. Do not fall for thinking this is anything other than just yet another new car transaction. If you want a new car great but don't buy something you otherwise wouldnt because you are under the misapprehension this is some sort of good deal.
The fact your only a few year old Note is worth only 4k or so should set the alarm bells ringing - what are you going to get for an extra £6-7k? Nothing - the same as what you've got now, and less money.
The fact your only a few year old Note is worth only 4k or so should set the alarm bells ringing - what are you going to get for an extra £6-7k? Nothing - the same as what you've got now, and less money.
Hardly. I'll only be upgrading if we end up spending less per month, or if we get more for our money at a very small increase. Where's the naivety in that?
Oh right sorry, I assumed you owned the Nissan Note.
Even still, if the monthly payments stay at a similar rate, the length of the loan is going to increase. After two years of repayments forde is going to be fairly close to owning the car outright, which is probably why the salesmen rang in the first place.