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So ladies and gents, was fermi a fail after all?

kmufc77 said:
Well coming from a 5870 to a 480 the extra heat and power were indeed worth it for me

The 480 produced better minimum frames and my whole gaming experiences felt smoother,so for a extra 100w on load and im guessing 10c more heat i was more than than happy with my 480.

Of course that my Opinion
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Out of interest does that hold true about the minimum frames compared to the current 69** series?
 
hyperst said:
Out of interest does that hold true about the minimum frames compared to the current 69** series?
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Couldn't comment as ive never owned a 69** ATI card,im just commenting on my experiences with both the 480 and the 5870

Though i do believe that the 480 is still slightly faster or at least on par with the 6970 on some games titles.
 
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Flakey said:
It's not really rubbish is it though. Look at the drivers at the time of the 5 series realese, took them a while to get decent ones (Not counting the 5970 as that was later and its a dual card).
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And? If you want to be like that, look at the release of Vista where nVidia couldn't get a driver set right for months, to the point where people couldn't use their 8800s on a Vista PC.
Also were are you getting this vast majority of people from? I could always turn that round and say the opposite you know.
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You can say what ever you want, it doesn't make it true. Clearly the vast majority of people don't have AMD driver issues, because you'd hear about it more than randomers on forums going on about how their drivers never ever work. The amount of people who have no driver issues vastly outweighs those that do, surely you understand this?
Of course nVidia drivers aren't perfect either but AMD ones seem lazy in places (bugs such dual monitor downclocking vanishing on 10.4 but then coming back in later drivers).
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It's a common thing for people to ignore nVidia's driver issues when looking at AMD's, and I don't know how you can do this while expecting people to take your posts seriously. If you think the downclocking thing is lazy, what do you call the nVidia driver set that caused cards to overheat? An accident that didn't matter because it was an accident?

Not trying to provoke or anything just giving my opinion.
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Everyone is entitled to their opinion, but when you're very selective with your examples, you should expect others to point it out.

If I tried to claim that nVidia drivers are especially bad, lazy and full of bugs, plenty of people would rightly correct me. Look at how many people have AMD and nVidia cards compared to those that complain about driver issues. It's less than 1% of the user base. I'm not saying driver issues are okay, but let's not pretend that it's just something that AMD suffer from. Anyone with real computer experience knows that drives can be fickle, and issues are to be expected at some point, regardless of the piece of hardware, they're for or who manufactured them.

Out of my 14 odd years of computer use, and about 10 years of building them, I've had driver issues with loads of bits of hardware, I also know a lot of the time it was down to me, but for the most part, especially with regards to AMD/ATi hardware, this "their drivers are crap" stuff is a complete and utter myth, I've built countless computers with both AMD/ATi and nVidia hardware in it, and 99% of the time there's been no issues.
 
kmufc77 said:
Couldn't comment as ive never owned a 69** ATI card,im just commenting on my experiences with both the 480 and the 5870
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I would expect that to be down to the RAM really, I've noticed this for a while, especially when comparing my 2GB 5870 to 1GB ones, mine seems to have higher minimums.
 
kmufc77 said:
Couldn't comment as ive never owned a 69** ATI card,im just commenting on my experiences with both the 480 and the 5870

Though i do believe that the 480 is still faster on at least on par with the 6970 on some games.
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I have/had both.
480 PWNS 6970
At current prices anyways.

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^Yeah if i had a 480 still i would have for sure bought another for SLI by now

Brilliant card for the price and one of the best still now
 
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