Water Chillers

tony_morton · 20 Mar 2011 at 12:42

Hi everyone

Has anyone used a water chiller in there system?

QX 9650 @4Ghz, Asus Striker II, Corsair Dominator 4Byte Memory, Gigabyte GTX 260 OC, SSD 120Gbyte, Water cooled

blueacid · 20 Mar 2011 at 13:23

Not personally - I remember seeing that it took a lot of preparation to avoid condensation related suffering.

Most people who were running WC loops instead opted to increase the water flow rate or the size of their rad.

cammy5477 · 20 Mar 2011 at 14:16

yes i have twice....first using a via aqua chiller then a haliea chiller....using one of these you dont need rads or many fans if any..... i wired mine through a 12v relay so that it started when the pc did but i had great success with it both times and may in the future make it number 3....i always kept the distance between ambient temp and actual temp of the coolant close enough that dew point wasnt a factor hence to say i never had any probs with dew.....what you can do is spray your mobo with conformal coating though to help protect it just in case .....depends how far you want to take it down

joemo13 · 20 Mar 2011 at 14:46

Does cooling a cpu down further increase its capability?

cammy5477 · 20 Mar 2011 at 15:55

joemo13 said:
Does cooling a cpu down further increase its capability?

yes....if you can keep it cool you can push it harder
for 24/7 use though there is a sweet spot thats sustainable which isnt say 7ghz on an i7 920..... water chilling helps keep all aspects cool regardless of weather, dust build up, how many rads/fans etc etc...... cpu/south bridge/north bridge/mosfets x 2/ram/ 2 x gpu is what i chilled on my last water chill build...and if i wanted to cool them harder i just told the chiller to do so....... there wasnt such a thing as equilibrium because if it equalised and i wanted it to cool more then i could tell it to do so......

Surveyor · 20 Mar 2011 at 16:09

Custom PC reviewed one here:

http://www.bit-tech.net/hardware/cooling/2010/07/20/hailea-hc-500a-water-chiller-review/1

cammy5477 · 20 Mar 2011 at 17:33

Surveyor said:
Custom PC reviewed one here:

http://www.bit-tech.net/hardware/cooling/2010/07/20/hailea-hc-500a-water-chiller-review/1

this is the hailea unit i had...its good but big and heavy....i prefered the via-aqua unit but there more difficult to get in the uk

silversurfer · 20 Mar 2011 at 21:35

In the end, the CPU temperature stabilised at 97°C, just a few degrees lower than the level at which Thermtrip activates, underclocking the CPU to prevent damage.

Surveyor · 20 Mar 2011 at 21:59

And what's your point?

That refers to the Titan Fenrir and has nothing to do with the OP's question.

tony_morton · 21 Mar 2011 at 22:39

cammy5477 said:
yes i have twice....first using a via aqua chiller then a haliea chiller....using one of these you dont need rads or many fans if any..... i wired mine through a 12v relay so that it started when the pc did but i had great success with it both times and may in the future make it number 3....i always kept the distance between ambient temp and actual temp of the coolant close enough that dew point wasnt a factor hence to say i never had any probs with dew.....what you can do is spray your mobo with conformal coating though to help protect it just in case .....depends how far you want to take it down

I am thinking the same keeping to about 20C or so, useing the heatmaster controller in my system, this uses two out of the five possible control loops it and relay. i have managed to get a D-D DC750 water cooler off ebay, what do you think, but i am wondering if my lang D5 pump is going too be up to the job

tony_morton · 21 Mar 2011 at 22:48

Hi

that Hailea HC-500A, looks very much like the i just got on ebay, take a look mines a D-D DC750.

cammy5477 · 21 Mar 2011 at 22:51

tony_morton said:
I am thinking the same keeping to about 20C or so, useing the heatmaster controller in my system, this uses two out of the five possible control loops it and relay. i have managed to get a D-D DC750 water cooler off ebay, what do you think, but i am wondering if my lang D5 pump is going too be up to the job

the d-5 is a powerful little pump and will handle this no probs....all you need to do tony is get a 12v relay...wire the 12v side to a molex plug and plug it in to your psu...when the pc starts it will energise the relay which will in turn energise the chiller that you will have wired through the relay on the 240v side...i can make you a magic box with a single socket on the front and a molex end hanging out? then its plug in to psu and 13amp plug in to socket....plug and play for you...

tony_morton · 21 Mar 2011 at 22:57

hi
take a look at the heatmaster controller from aquatuning web site, it has a 24volt relay on board, i will use this to control a mains switch. so what results did you get.

cammy5477 · 21 Mar 2011 at 23:10

at the time water cooling was fairly new.....i had a amd fx-55 and a pair of 6800 ultra's which were the first cards that could do sli...i bought them cost me £800 and they wouldnt run farcry due to heat so i decided to watercool,then watercool turned to water chill....first time it was with the via aqua chiller....it was great could cool way beyond the level i wanted it to..im sure i kept my chip at 9-10c...then again maybe 3 years ago with a core 2 extreme edition and a 8800gtx which i fubar'd trying to get the block on so replaced with a 8800 ulta with a block already on...amazing results again would go into single figures...you could literally have it on core temp then tell the chiller lower and watch the temps go down even in prime95 at 100%...im surprised that there hasnt been a chiller made by corsair etc etc especially for pc's thats plug and play....i think it would be a good seller.....remember you dew point though.....i kept it no more than 10c away from ambient otherwise you will need to lag hoses and conformal coat your mobo

tony_morton · 21 Mar 2011 at 23:23

cammy5477 said:
at the time water cooling was fairly new.....i had a amd fx-55 and a pair of 6800 ultra's which were the first cards that could do sli...i bought them cost me £800 and they wouldnt run farcry due to heat so i decided to watercool,then watercool turned to water chill....first time it was with the via aqua chiller....it was great could cool way beyond the level i wanted it to..im sure i kept my chip at 9-10c...then again maybe 3 years ago with a core 2 extreme edition and a 8800gtx which i fubar'd trying to get the block on so replaced with a 8800 ulta with a block already on...amazing results again would go into single figures...you could literally have it on core temp then tell the chiller lower and watch the temps go down even in prime95 at 100%...im surprised that there hasnt been a chiller made by corsair etc etc especially for pc's thats plug and play....i think it would be a good seller.....remember you dew point though.....i kept it no more than 10c away from ambient otherwise you will need to lag hoses and conformal coat your mobo

sounds good stuff, i have to use con-coat at work etc, but i get your point, at the moment i have a stable platform at 4Ghz(CPU), and my CPU max temp with prime95 at 100% is 75C, fans and pump are on full which defeats why i went to water cooling in the first place.