Facebook's takeover of the Internet

Tefal · 23 Mar 2011 at 14:20

Lysander said:
Thanks. Coming from you this is an enviable compliment.

To be fair lys you are a touch on the strange side

LeJosh · 23 Mar 2011 at 14:30

Tefal said:
To be fair lys you are a touch on the strange side

Was going to say this too.

bsoltan · 23 Mar 2011 at 14:38

Facebook said:
Authentication
Facebook helps you simplify and enhance user registration and sign-in by using Facebook as your login system. Users no longer need to fill in yet another registration form or remember another username and password to use your site. As long as the user is signed into Facebook, they are automatically signed into your site as well. Using Facebook for login provides you with all the information you need to create a social, personalized experience from the moment the user visits your site in their browser.

The Login Button and the Registration Plugin allow you to easily bring the more than 500 million Facebook users to your site. In doing so, you can also eliminate or reduce whole parts of your codebase. You can learn more about how to add Login with Facebook to your site by reading the documentation for the Login Button, the Registration Plugin and the JavaScript SDK.

This is why other websites/communities use it. The more Facebook grows, the more benefit it will have to use it as the registration tool for other websites.
I can see benefits and disadvantages of a single-signon, including security but it makes a lot of sense from the opposite (website/dev) side.

MikeHunt79 · 23 Mar 2011 at 14:40

Lysander said:
A few weeks ago I finally got an invite for the Canvas closed beta, which I had been waiting for for a long time. On trying to sign in I was told that I could only do so with a Facebook account. I don't have a Facebook account, don't intend on getting one, so Canvas goes out the window. That's access to an entire website disabled because I don't have a Facebook account.

I was just on Photobucket now and a big white box appeared under a picture saying I could comment on the picture through Facebook. Spotify has Spotify social enabled through.... yes, Facebook. These days more and more places have Facebook integration and now you can even get a Facebook email address.

The thing is, for a lot of people Facebook is the Internet so how far will it go? It's getting harder and harder to get away from it.

Just make a fake FB account, it's a pain but it's quick to sign in with 1 existing account as opposed to registering to each site you want to access separately...

tigerstyle · 23 Mar 2011 at 14:57

Reading this wants to make me change all my facebook id settings to gibberish.

Dirk · 23 Mar 2011 at 17:23

I'm with teh OP on this one. Sick of having FB et al shoved down our collective throats.

Every website these days is completely defaced with FB,Twitter,Digg blurb. Gets right on my ****.

ChrisJSY · 23 Mar 2011 at 17:32

Morba said:
Some people have friends that they don't see all the time. Have you not made friends in other areas of the country / world?

I do but uh...use other methods that are nicer and existed before FB/other social sites., not dissing it though just saying.
Personally, all my friends still use IRC still and most of them are always 24/7 in the channels on their PC/Phone/Work. Then again, all my friends are huge geeks and maintain a crazy amount of permanent online presence.

Facebook hasn't given me anything to use better than I have been using to stay in contact with people many years before it, hence why I see it being useless to me. (Read me, not other people).
But having to use it to use another service, website, product or whatever, annoying.

Morba · 23 Mar 2011 at 18:26

There is no way that irc is nicer than facebook as a way of interacting with people.

Do you have any real friends or are they all on irc 24/7 only? By that I mean if you were in a place for a night where a friend is, would you go out and meet them or just chat from hotel on irc to them?

V4NT0M · 23 Mar 2011 at 18:49

All of your friends are on IRC? That, is very strange.

ChrisJSY · 24 Mar 2011 at 15:43

Morba said:
There is no way that irc is nicer than facebook as a way of interacting with people.

Do you have any real friends or are they all on irc 24/7 only? By that I mean if you were in a place for a night where a friend is, would you go out and meet them or just chat from hotel on irc to them?

I didn't say it alone was nicer, or the only way I communicate with them.
Oh and remember, I live on Jersey, during the working day time we are actually minutes from each other, one is right across the road.

It's a method we have come to use because of the "Distance here is no problem". All my friends, real friends. Not (Yes, this is a back-at-ya response) "facebook" friends who I never see past once a blue moon

We bend and use technology to suit our needs, don't we all?

Skyfall said:
All of your friends are on IRC? That, is very strange.

Is it? Explain yourself.

Is it any different to saying "all my friends are on facebook?".
Only difference is 10 years ago and more, I was still using IRC!

Let's keep it lighthearted though, just don't appreciate the insinuations in those replies as if they aren't real friends and that some how, using one thing over the other is strange. When essentially they do the same thing, one without fluff. Yes, one has many other features which I don't need to use.

Morba · 24 Mar 2011 at 15:52

No need for insinuations, your comment about how your friends are all geeks that are on irc 24/7 says enough

ChrisJSY · 24 Mar 2011 at 15:53

Morba said:
No need for insinuations, your comment about how your friends are all geeks that are on irc 24/7 says enough

That they are not real? Or are you attempting to be insulting, pick one!

Morba · 24 Mar 2011 at 15:56

ChrisJSY said:
That they are not real? Or are you attempting to be insulting, pick one!

My question was, 'if you were in the same town as said friends for a night would you go and meet them or chat to them on irc instead?'.

From your comments i'm guessing they (or you) would be too scared to meet as it might mean being away from a PC

trigger-happy · 24 Mar 2011 at 15:57

some people don't want to register with FB because the fact that you can search for their names on a search engine and their details will be displayed - privacy issues etc.

LordSplodge · 24 Mar 2011 at 15:57

I don't have a problem with FaceBook. I do have a problem with FaceBook being used to provide log-on credentials for other sites.

Morba · 24 Mar 2011 at 15:59

trigger-happy said:
some people don't want to register with FB because the fact that you can search for their names on a search engine and their details will be displayed - privacy issues etc.

I cant seem to find me on google search of name + facebook.

ChrisJSY · 24 Mar 2011 at 16:03

Morba said:
My question was, 'if you were in the same town as said friends for a night would you go and meet them or chat to them on irc instead?'.

From your comments i'm guessing they (or you) would be too scared to meet as it might mean being away from a PC

Now you're just being rude and making assumptions!

But to answer your question, since you clearly need helping, I see my friends whenever I want, mostly on a whim. This island is so small you don't need to worry about someone being nearby to visit, this isn't the UK there are always near. Plans don't need to be made further in advance as you might if visiting people in a larger country.

Also, being online 24/7 doesn't actually mean they are there, just our hardware is permanently connected. You should know.

Morba · 24 Mar 2011 at 16:05

So your only friends are local to you on your island?

Surfer · 24 Mar 2011 at 16:08

Morba said:
Some people have friends that they dont see all the time. Have you not made friends in other areas of the country / world?

Dont really agree with the nature of facebook friendships tbh. The facebook definition and the traditional definition are, at least for me, worlds apart.