Intelligent life.

I have no answer to the question in the op, i get on with daily life but sometimes i look around and think wtf, we are here on a planet in an unimaginably vast universe this is mental lol.
 
Tefal said:
because animals/lifeforms do not choose how they change/evolve, you're talking about it as if it is designed and controlled by some sort of conciousness.
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Not at all, but is everything totally random or, like the universe itself, does evolution follow a specific set of rules and when the circumstances present in a specific way shouldn't we see more than one instance of it.

Why do all the Planets, Suns, Moons etc all rotate the same way?
 
Intelligence is a freak of nature, while it worked out well for us it's not exactly a 'must have' for an immediate genetic advantage.

It's also all the proof I need to believe there is no other intelligent life in the universe.
 
Castiel said:
Explain?
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Patronising aside: The whole point of [Darwinian] evolution is that it's random. (Rather, mutations are random that if they manifest as desirable traits these are passed on). So we don't "evolve" in a conscious way.... E.g., if we were without light, we wouldn't "evolve" an ability to see in the dark. One lucky individual might, and they'd have babies etc... So I can see why you meant it's contrary to evolution. Only, it's not. It certainly isn't evolution, but one could argue that our evolved intelligence has facilitated us to adapt the environment to our needs. The classic example is clothing kept us warm, limiting our need for body hair.

There's an okay book on the subject: "The Artificial Ape: How Technology Changed the Course of Human Evolution".

Castiel said:
Not toward my kitchen and conservatory they are not. If you want to rule the world, follow the ants example.
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Or bacteria. Viruses would be my ultimate example, but they're technically not life.
 
Telescopi said:
Intelligence is a freak of nature, while it worked out well for us it's not exactly a 'must have' for an immediate genetic advantage.

It's also all the proof I need to believe there is no other intelligent life in the universe.
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I sometimes wonder if their is ANY intelligent life in the Universe.
 
Telescopi said:
Intelligence is a freak of nature, while it worked out well for us it's not exactly a 'must have' for an immediate genetic advantage.
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That's a can of worms. There's the argument that our intellect makes us better parents, thus producing ever-improving offspring through 'love' and the family unit and so on. Off course, related to my earlier comment, we could have sex with every female we see to ensure our genetic survival....
 
Castiel said:
Not at all, but is everything totally random or, like the universe itself, does evolution follow a specific set of rules and when the circumstances present in a specific way shouldn't we see more than one instance of it.

Why do all the Planets, Suns, Moons etc all rotate the same way?
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Perhaps because the galaxy itself is spinning in one direction?
 
Castiel said:
But what are the odds of us being the only one.
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How do you know it's not just too early to make the call of us being the only one? we may just be the first.

Let's bump this thread in several million years and see if anything else on the planet bothered developing agriculture.
 
meghatronic said:
Patronising aside: The whole point of [Darwinian] evolution is that it's random. (Rather, mutations are random that if they manifest as desirable traits these are passed on). So we don't "evolve" in a conscious way.... E.g., if we were without light, we wouldn't "evolve" an ability to see in the dark. One lucky individual might, and they'd have babies etc... So I can see why you meant it's contrary to evolution. Only, it's not. It certainly isn't evolution, but one could argue that our evolved intelligence has facilitated us to adapt the environment to our needs. The classic example is clothing kept us warm, limiting our need for body hair.

There's an okay book on the subject: "The Artificial Ape: How Technology Changed the Course of Human Evolution".
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I see what you mean. I'll have a look at the book as well.

I can see why Asimov maintained that Humanity was likely to be the only intelligent life in our Galaxy.
 
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