Wage or % of Profits ?

Will this affect using his shops stock on the website ? And how much share should I demand ?

You'd transfer stock as it was required for orders, probably set a price at cost or slightly above. Shop would invoice web firm and web firm would pay shop on set terms (time wise).

How would OCuk deal with a % for me, if this was the situation for you? :) This is also @ Ruper Lowery

Rupert left ocuk several years ago, why not ask Spie as he owns it ;)

I doubt very much if ocuk would want to enter into such an arrangment - I imagine it's only being considered in this case as it's highly speculative and he doesn't want to risk any investment in it.

The percentage he offers and terms for stock / resources will be up to the two of you to negotiate, there really is no set rate he should offer.
 
You'd transfer stock as it was required for orders, probably set a price at cost or slightly above. Shop would invoice web firm and web firm would pay shop on set terms (time wise).

Ah great, thanks for clearing that up :)

Rupert left ocuk several years ago, why not ask Spie as he owns it ;)

I doubt very much if ocuk would want to enter into such an arrangment - I imagine it's only being considered in this case as it's highly speculative and he doesn't want to risk any investment in it.

The percentage he offers and terms for stock / resources will be up to the two of you to negotiate, there really is no set rate he should offer.

Ah Spie!, sorry, I need to update myself :p

Telescopi & Spie,

If you was in my position, what would you consider a fair percentage for your services and time? (This could be in profit or as a shareholder, what ever you would recommend in this situation?) Also in terms of outgoings, what should I consider on his end. Will he be spending that much when it comes to taxes and delivery on each item, or is he trying to barter me into less earnings and a bigger cut for himself?
 
Just Spie really, I'm a programmer not a businessman :)

what would you consider a fair percentage

half of the new company. He's providing capital and trading history, you are doing all the work. Think of it like dragons den.

Also in terms of outgoings, what should I consider on his end. Will he be spending that much when it comes to taxes and delivery on each item, or is he trying to barter me into less earnings and a bigger cut for himself?

You're really not thinking about about this in terms of a company, it's not you and him, it's his shop company and your (yours and his) web company.

He won't be spending anything at all on delivery, the web company will, and you'd best hope that's covered by the money you've taken for selling the goods or you've no future at all. There's no tax with profits, vat is irrelevant.

Consider what happens to other costs, office space, electricity, web hosting, payment service fees, accounting - there's a lot. I's suggest his existing company covers those and make a margin on whatever stock is sold from company 1 to company 2.

If you go down this path don't expect to be paid for a while, can you live without a wage for 6 months? A year?

If you need a wage you need one, but any terms you negotiate on that basis will suck.

Maybe you should take professional advice - your bank might even have a small business adviser.
 
I'm confused, what is offering shares, or a percentage of profits?

If shares, possibly(You will have rights, allowed to see detailed accounts), percentage of profits, no.
 
Thanks a lot for the advice scopi, although you're a programmer, you make a lot of sense btw what programming language do you do ? just incase I need help with the automated invoice system and database xD

Also if you see Spie, direct him to my thread please he account details and intake.
 
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