Woman, 28, pregnant with dad's baby

Fat Andy a lad who lived around the area I grew up, his dad was his grandad as well... so same thing, but I believe it was via wrong doing rather than daughter loves dad.

Sad, but nice lad - always got on with it, probably employed by now. Enjoyed riding his bike everywhere. His mum a bit borderline mentally disabled, a dinner lady by trade always liked a chat.

True story.
 
IIRC that was a sad situation because they never knew they were brother and sister until it all came out years later. These two always knew they were father and daughter which is just so wrong!

Exactly. I think that's how their story was as well.

I could be somewhat understanding if they found out after they got into a relationship that they were related, or even after she got pregnant.
But to go forward with it knowing.. Wrong on so many levels.

Edit: Had a search for the story and couldn't find it but a forum of someone pregnant with their brothers baby came up, and to the post people replied stuff like:

Birth defects in incest babies is the biggest myth since the world was thought to be flat. There is absolutely no evidence that suggests that incest babies have a higher rate of defects than other conceived children. These people who believe otherwise have been relying on unproven and false information. Don't abort.

I mean.. what? :/
 
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From a moral/modern world point of view - can understand most of the outcry against it.

From a purely biological/reproductive point of view - so what?

From a none of anyone else's business point of view - so what?

Feel free to ride the high horse but really, who cares? Some of the replies here like it's the most criminal thing someone could ever do are more cringeworthy than the story in the opening post.
 
Massive over reaction by most.

They didn't know each other until adult hood and love is a powerful thing.
At least the babies getting checked out and terminated if needed.
 
You would be 99.999999% sure that there would be some sort of genetic mutation unless they are very very very lucky and the child happens to be perfectly normal but then soon as he/she finds out...god help that kid with the emotional issues it will have...

No it doesn't cause any genetic mutations at all. (the would have to be a defect in the production of the sperm/egg and would happen regardless of partner.)

The risk is they're more likely to both be carriers of the same recessive gene for a genetic condition and so the chance is the child will end up having the condition full blown.

but it is not a certainty it's just more likely than 2 random people both having the same recessive genes.

It's why carriers of haemophilia should have their partner tested before having kids as if they're a carrier to the kid will have the condition
 
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I remember seeing Panorama or something, maybe Cutting Edge? One of those kinds of programmes.
It was about genetic defects which are on the rise apparently in Asian communities due to some of them marrying first cousins - they had a case study of a family where mum and dad were first cousins and their three children all had crippling genetic defects.
What shocked me was that once they'd had one which had such terrible disabilities (I think they were deaf and blind as well as being impaired physically as well), they went on and had two more, who were just as badly disabled.

From BBC website:

"It is estimated that at least 55% of British Pakistanis are married to first cousins and the tradition is also common among some other South Asian communities and in some Middle Eastern countries.

But there is a problem: marrying someone who is themselves a close family member carries a risk for children - a risk that lies within the code of life; within our genes.

Communities that practice cousin marriage experience higher levels of some very rare but very serious illnesses - illnesses known as recessive genetic disorders."

Recessive genetic disorders are caused by variant genes. There are hundreds of different recessive genetic disorders, many associated with severe disability and sometimes early death, and each caused by a different variant gene.

We all have two copies of every gene. If you inherit one variant gene you will not fall ill.

If, however, a child inherits a copy of the same variant gene from each of its parents it will develop one of these illnesses.

The variant genes that cause genetic illness tend to be very rare. In the general population the likelihood of a couple having the same variant gene is a hundred to one.

In cousin marriages, if one partner has a variant gene the risk that the other has it too is far higher - more like one in eight.
 
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i think he it is the oft used irish are backwards stream of thought based on common and probably outdated perceptions like the oldy worldy accent, shows like father ted, the leprechaun folk law stuff, gypsies & travelers and of course the english man irish man and Scottish jokes.

basically implying that the irish race is a somewhat socially and economically disabled race

i can only assume ?
 
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