Golf PD250 - Paint Correction.

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Havent been that active in the overclocking seen now for many many years. Just recently got a new computer and tinkering again.

Anyway bar working with computers everyday - I also got a pashion for car detailing. Below is a car I done last year for a friend, it needed some TLC!


DIRTY DIRTY DEISEL CORRECTION
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The benefit of writing after you do a detail apart from the simple fact that the event hasn’t happened yet is that you can look back and assess what went right, what went wrong and what needs to change.

I think with anything you do, in time you gain a confidence and you want exposure to new challenges to keep things fresh. That’s all well and good until you hit something that knocks you for six. Try 3 years without a polish with a car that’s used as a daily driver and 186k on the clock! The car is a hybrid turbo diesel with a bad tendency to chuck out those dirty diesel fumes out its rear end.

Rams and I have been planning this detail forever and what turned up was a dirty dirty diesel car and it presented itself like so.


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Drawing on past experiences I already knew what products I was going to use. I have also almost relegated the Menzerna Intensive Polish to the bench with P203S being the star player. My logic behind this is that with intensive Polish you just don’t get the finish for the time it takes to properly break down the product. I find it dries up much quicker than the other Menzerna range. I still used Menz IP on the bonnet where it needed that extra cut.


Products
Wash n Drying
Meguairs NXT Tech Shampoo
Meguairs All Purpose Cleaner
Chemical Guys Orange Degreaser
Autosmart Tardis
Bilberry Wheel Cleaner
Valet Pro Snow Foam
Super Plush drying towel
Chemical Guys and Meguairs microfibres

Body Work
Cleanyourcar fine polyclay
Menzerna Power Finish (203S)
Menzerna Intensive Polish (3.02)
Dodo Juice Lime Prime
Meguairs ScratchX
Meguairs Metal Polish

Glazes, Sealants and Waxes
Autoglym HD Wax
Meguairs Last Touch

Plastics, Rubbers and Glass
Chemical Guys New Look Trim Gel
Autoglym Glass Cleaner
WD40

Tools
Meguiars G220 mk2 machine polisher
Karcher Pressure washer
Sonus foam applicators
Menzerna Polish Pad (Orange)
Sonus SwirlBuster Pad
Sonus Green Polishing Pad
Swissvax Detail Brush
Vikan Wheel Brushes
Polished Bliss Wheel and Arch Brush
3M 3434 Masking Tape
500w Halogen


WHEELS
Wheels were soaked in Bilberry Wheel Cleaner. The Arches were also soaked in CG Degreaser and All Purpose Cleaner worked in with the PB Brush.

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CLEAN STAGE
Valet Pro snow foam was left to soak for 5-6 minutes and sprayed off. I applied a second coat of snow and proceeded to wash with Megs NXT wash. With amount of dirt on the car to start with I didn’t fancy adding more swirls and scratches to the mixture.

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Car looked pretty good soaking wet! I was looking forward to making that a perm look.
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Claying was just mental, the car obliterated the clay bar. By the end it was falling to pieces!

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At this stage in the detail I was really losing the will to live. I was really worried detailing the car because the paint condition was awful and the task ahead was looking bigger than a day’s work. Spending 1.5 hours just claying the car was totally unexpected and definitely the strangest experience with a clay bar yet. Some panels where smooth to the touch but the clay bar was coming out black? Never seen that before!

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CORRECTION STAGE

After trying out a few different combinations P203S and Sonus SiwlrBuster Pad seem to work. I must admit I was not happy with the overall level of correction. The paint just didn’t play ball on different parts of the car. Some panels were soft, some panels were hard and some even sticky. I had to make a decision that I was not going to able to achieve the level of correct I normally achieve with VAG paint cars. I think in these scenario’s its best to know your limitations and my limitations were time and experience. I think if I had the car for longer I would have chosen a complete different approach and most definitely would have wet sanded some parts. In light of my difficulties the results were still a night and day difference.


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A painful 4 hours later and here are the results after the first stage. I did hit panels several times and I must admit some panels really tested my patience. However I think the effort made a difference in the end.

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RESULTS

Unfortunately with time not on my side I didn’t get time to take pictures of the second pass with Lime Prime. I also didn’t get time to show the cleaning of plastics, rubbers and glass that the mrs helped me with as she realised I was struggling with this one. The car was finished off with two coats of Autoglym HD Wax with the second coat applied an hour apart. In an ideal world if I had the car for longer, it would have been 24 hours apart to allow the wax to cure and bond better.

Anyway here’s the results, I took plenty this time round!

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As always thank you to my mate Rams for letting me detail his car. Hope you enjoy it mate! I am guessing Kenny’s golf is going to be a lot worse? I expect a free engine rebuild of something or the keys to his 500bhp Cosworth! lol

Hope you all enjoyed the detail and the write-up!

Detailers Notes
- Know my limits. Sometimes you can’t correct every single scratch and every single bit of RDS.
- Rotary would have helped on this detail.
 
Nice job.

Very brave removing the rear wiper though - don't the Mk4 Golfs get literally filthy black at the back within 12 seconds of driving on the road?


Oh and what is a PD250? Never heard of that before. Is it an official model or did the owner make up his own plaque or something?

I googled to see if I could see what it was but all it turned up was this same detailing report posted on about 10 other forums :o
 
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Try 3 years without a polish with a car that’s used as a daily driver and 186k on the clock

hero. my golf is only getting upto 2 years without a wash. thats on 228k.

unfortunately im going to have a mamoth detailing session on my hands in the next few months
 
[TW]Fox;18772713 said:
Oh and what is a PD250? Never heard of that before. Is it an official model or did the owner make up his own plaque or something?

I'd say it was made up...

Amazing job however, really want someone to come and detail my car as I just don't have the patience to do it all myself!:o
 
[TW]Fox;18772713 said:
Nice job.

Very brave removing the rear wiper though - don't the Mk4 Golfs get literally filthy black at the back within 12 seconds of driving on the road?


Oh and what is a PD250? Never heard of that before. Is it an official model or did the owner make up his own plaque or something?

I googled to see if I could see what it was but all it turned up was this same detailing report posted on about 10 other forums :o
Thanks!

It stays nice if you keep the protection levels up so contaminents dont bond as well.

PD250 represents the horsepower the car is pushing. The car uses a standard 1.9ltr TDI 150PD engine. Change turbo, intercooler, exhaust, injectors and other bits then you have 250bhp.

Does it have an LSD? Must be crazy if not :D
Does have an LSD yes.

They Lime Primed after polishing :confused:
Lime Prime is used to refine the initial cut as it has abrassives in it. I chose Lime Prime because it also contains a lot of cleaning agents and oils which doubles as a glaze. Perfect for then placing down a wax layer.
 
[TW]Fox;18772713 said:
Very brave removing the rear wiper though - don't the Mk4 Golfs get literally filthy black at the back within 12 seconds of driving on the road?

They do, I wouldn't dream of taking the rear wiper off mine, it gets used a lot or it gets to the point you just can't see out the back window.
 
Spec if anyone is interested:

Engine

ARL (PD150) Engine and 6 speed gearbox
R32 DSG Air feed snorkel
Audi S3 Airbox and OEM panel filter
Forge front mounted intercooler
Custom AmD Essex / Kenny Reid Aluminium pipework for intercooler
AmD Essex / Kenny Reid Stage 2 PD250 remap
AmD Essex / Kenny Reid Stage 2 Hybrid PD250 Turbo (32psi)
Milltek turbo back with 4motion tailpipes
Forge shortshift
Quaiffe LSD differential * To be fitted
SACHS uprated sports clutch * To be fitted

Bodywork

Smooted front and back bumpers
Genuine Votex bodykit with rear votex valance modified to fit 4motion tailpipes
Bootlid flushed (custom Passat 3 button keyfob pops the boot)
Bonrath grille
Flushed bonnet with debadged
Hatch infill blended into tailgate
US rear clusters
R32 OEM Xenon headlights with OEM 4300k bulbs, superwhite LED sidelights
R32 door mirrors
Phaeton roof aerial (colour coded) with Sat nav aerial wired to Kenwood headunit
Aero Wipers
50% tints

Wheels and Suspension

Genuine BBS RC 18x8J Alloys custom finished with polished face and black inserts. Centre caps removed and replaced with custom wheel caps
front 312mm / rear 256mm (vented) brakes with ferodo DS2500 pads
Genuine VW Racing (imported from Germany) upper / lower strut brace
Genuine VW Racing rear stress bar
Eibach sportline 50mm springs with matching Eibach shock absorbers


Interior

Full R32 Alu trim
Bora vents
Passat W8 roof light
Black R32 autodimming mirror with retrofitted rainsensor
Bora sport FIS (full screen) clocks with lit pointers and miles to empty
R32 Steering wheel
R32 Handbrake
TT pedals and deadpedal
B7 RS4 gearknob
Audi TT heated front leather seats / Recaro rear bench

ICE

Sony PS2 Slim (in glovebox) with wireless controllers
Kenwood 6029 double din with IPOD and Sat Nav
Kicker 200.2 powering MB Quart P216 component speaker (front and rear)
Kicker KX600.1 Mono amp powering Kicker L7 Sub

Air freshener

California scents - Cherry
 
how long did that take?

when i used to bother washing/polishing cars 4 hours plus wasnt unusual and ive got two cars that have not been washed for a long long time.

i recon itll be about a day per car
 
Nice work mate
Thank you, appreciate it.

How much torque does it produce? I'm guessing 4-500 Nm?
Produces 360lb/ft of torque. The Torque curve is pretty flat from what I have seen.

how long did that take?

when i used to bother washing/polishing cars 4 hours plus wasnt unusual and ive got two cars that have not been washed for a long long time.

i recon itll be about a day per car
It took me 9 hours.

When I first started 2-3 years ago it used to take me a good 12hours so managed to shave of time the better I got.

Extremely tiring though - I am dead the next day.
 
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