Airport Extreme + HDD = Time Capsule?

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I'm gonna get an Airport Extreme as I'm sick and tired of rubbish routers with dropped wifi and constant resetting.

Anyway 2 questions:

1) Can I stick a 2TB HDD into it and have all the computers in the room (4) use it for time machine as a pseudo time capsule?

2) What is the point of an Airport Express apart from being able to connect speakers throughout a building?

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1) Can I stick a 2TB HDD into it and have all the computers in the room (4) use it for time machine as a pseudo time capsule?

2) What is the point of an Airport Express apart from being able to connect speakers throughout a building?

1) You can, however Time capsule is better/easier.

2) Extending your network which otherwise would be out of range, for example I have a wifi network which covers my entire property including my garden :)
 
Cool, its a done deal then...

Unless theres a new version due right around the corner... anyone know? (this model's been around for ages hasn't it?)
 
They've all been out for a while yeah, but considering there hasn't been any breakthrough wireless technology I doubt there will be an update anytime soon.

Don't quote me on that though.

Btw another thing the airport express can do (which I failed to mention) is give internet to a computer or other device that doesn't have wireless. I hook mine up to the Freesat box and get BBC iPlayer through that.
 
Ordered :D

Hopefully thats the end of crappy connection - have to reset the router about 3 times a day!
 
Oh crap have I bought the wrong thing? I wanted this to replace my netgear DG834 but it can't can it? There's no DSL port???

So, is this just a really expensive wireless access point? It's not so much the wireless that's playing up for me it's the whole connection (the netgears fault I'm sure) but even with this I would still need the router no?
 
Maybe look at something like the Linksys AM200 or Draytek Vigor 110? They are simple modems you can connect to the Time Capsule, of course normal routers work as well :)
 
I ordered the Extreme at I like wired most of the time and the office is all cabled up properly anyway... I'll look into that Vigor since I am massively unimpressed with netgear...

So why on earth isn't there a modem built in? Seems like half a job?
 
I ordered the Extreme at I like wired most of the time and the office is all cabled up properly anyway... I'll look into that Vigor since I am massively unimpressed with netgear...

So why on earth isn't there a modem built in? Seems like half a job?

Well you could argue having a modem in it is a pointless feature for people like me who have cable. I'm pretty sure it would effect the size of the thing too. (maybe)
 
Yes but it means you can't have a complete (and trusted) apple setup, it leaves tge important bit to a third party that could let the system down...

I was gonna test it out at work and if I liked it, get one for home but when you factor in 2 modems the whole lot is over £400 :eek:

I'll try it with a little Thomson Speed Touch modem I have although I'm not holding my breath, then I'll get a Vigor 120 if need be ;)
 
Right had a a good ole read around and it definietly seems like a Vigor 120 + Airport Extreme is a mighty good setup :)

Not being one to completely understand networking, could someone translate this to english for me?

The DrayTek Vigor 120 is an ADSL modem with an Ethernet connection; it is not a router but a true ADSL Ethernet modem. By providing a PPPoE to PPPoA bridge, the connected device (firewall, router or PC) can log into the Internet (your ISP) directly and have full control over the ADSL connection - that makes the Vigor 120 a unique product. You can connect any device to the Vigor 120 which has a PPPoE client facility, which includes PCs, most Ethernet-WAN routers and the Apple Airport™ but the actual connection to your ISP is still PPPoA (unlike other modems which only provide PPPoE native bridging), which is the unique feature of this product and makes it compatible with all UK ISPs, where PPPoA is used as standard.

Other ADSL Ethernet 'modems' use workarounds to get a public IP address 'through' to your secondary device/client, requiring non-standard operation and complicated dual-stage setup (modem logs in, router routes) but the Vigor 120 provides the secondary device with a real routed IP connection and the ability to fully manage the connection, making setup easy. In most cases, the Vigor 120 needs no setup or configuration - just plug it in and set up your PC or router. All login/ISP details are entered on the connected client device, not the Vigor 120.

This method also differs from using a regular ADSL router which logs in itself and then uses NAT or multiple public IP addresses to create an onward client connection for your secondary device; that is not IP address thrifty, or introduces secondary NAT compromises. With the Vigor 120 bridge/modem, you get a true single public IP address (or multiple, if you have them) straight through to your firewall/router, which also has complete control of the ISP connection.

Is that just marketing spiel or is really a unique device?

Either way, I've ordered it :D
 
Im no expert but I think that basically the Draytek modem acts simply as a throughput, it's basically invisible. It sorts all the gubbins required to connect to the ISP then passes all that through to the airport directly. Then it looks to your airport device that it goes ISP > Airport Extreme.

Something along those lines I think. Either way my old Vigor 100 worked well setup like that but one downside I couldn't figure out how to access the modem stats once setup as the modem ended up being invisible on my network.

Excuse the lack of technical language/know how :)
 
Pretty much what VaderDSL said (I'm not particularly clued up either).

With mine, all the actual setup (ISP password and so on) is done on the AEBS in my case. The Vigor just sits there.
 
Could I ask, what is it in a standard all-in-one router/modem that gets clogged up and needs regularly restarting all the time, and why is it different with a separare quality combo like vigor 12-/airport extreme?

Never yet had a router where it isn't a case of "oh, its playing up again, i'll just restart it" - and I've had a few (namely Netgear DG834s, Cisco something or other, some D-Link ones)...
 
To be honest I expect if you paid that sort of money for any wireless router you could expect the same sort of quality. It's just a very good quality router - good range, good features, reliability.

Same with the Vigor - I suppose it's quite expensive considering it just does the one thing, but it does it very well and won't let you down. I know it's £200 between them, but I don't regret it in the slightest. Two great bits of kit that work really well together.

I've ordered a powered USB hub today (I do have one somewhere but I can't find it anywhere) and I'm moving two 1tb USB drives down to by the AEBS. One to use as my Time Machine backup, one for movies, as I have now got all the kit in my upstairs sitting room wired, and the laptop and phones and whatnots will run off the wireless, so I figured now I have the extra speed I'll move my backup down there and centralise a bit more. Airport Disk works really nice for Macs, I haven't used it on Windows machines but it's great on OSX.
 
Never yet had a router where it isn't a case of "oh, its playing up again, i'll just restart it" - and I've had a few (namely Netgear DG834s, Cisco something or other, some D-Link ones)...

I have to ask the obvious question, seeing as you've gone through so many routers:

Are you sure your problems aren't down to your ISP?
 
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