I am skinny, I want to be average.

tall people and espcailly those growing going need eat a lot more pretty crazy how much need to eat to gain weight, i really have to put a lot of effort into it to gain anything at my current 100kg 6'4 epscially if live an active life style outside of gym. same time if ate 10k or even 6k calories a day one way or another would be gaining weight and don't think many people wouldn't.
 
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Haven't looked at this thread in awhile - just glanced back as someone started a similiar thread - kylew - I was eating 2x those kinda dinners in the evenings (chicken, bacon, pasta, etc.) which by my estimation was just over 2000 cal for the 2 of them. I'd never claim my diet was healthy but there was/is a lot of calories in it.
 
Rroff said:
Haven't looked at this thread in awhile - just glanced back as someone started a similiar thread - kylew - I was eating 2x those kinda dinners in the evenings (chicken, bacon, pasta, etc.) which by my estimation was just over 2000 cal for the 2 of them. I'd never claim my diet was healthy but there was/is a lot of calories in it.
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If you read up online you'll find that the example meal that he posted is actually a fair bit less than the 2000kcals that he claims they are. If you're estimations are as far off as his are, you might find that you're barely eating your maintenance requirement. You might well be a "hard gainer", which would also contribute.

5UB - Have you started training and sorting your diet out yet? This thread isn't particularly helpful compared to some of the others in this forum. Take a look around a bit, there are some pretty knowledgeable people here.
 
Little and Often, some people live by.

Few of us do Intimitent Fasting, different folks for different strokes, as they don't say.
 
I normally just have two massive meals now-a-days, 1200 cals-ish each. If I snack in the early evening, I cut back my other meal tho!
 
I'm 6ft2 and skinny. Always have been since I grew quickly as a teen. (used to be smallest at school then had growth spurt). I also find it frustrating when people say "yeah just eat loads". That's really helpful thanks. I have tried over the past 2-3 years going to the gym and eating as much as possible and yes I have seen improvements in strength and slightly more muscular growth, but really it's only very slight and I never - NOT ONCE - went significantly higher in weight by any more than a few pounds. I'm pretty much consitently 11 and a half stone. Always. I obviously have a fast motabolism.

My issue is this:

1: I do not have time in my life to prepare and eat as much as 3-4000 calories a day.
2: I do not feel like eating that much and do not want to permanently feel bloated and sick.
3: I get constipation and digestive issues when I change my diet to eating a lot more.
4: COST COST COST. i have no idea how you guys eat what you eat and afford it. Do you literally go to work solely to spend it on food and gym membership? If I were to eat 2 - 3 times as much as I do, my food bill would go up....oh wait...2 - 3 times. That's 2 - 3 hundred pounds more every week or two. Cannot afford.


I have consequently cancelled my gym membership and finally given up. My life is not worth feeling permanently tired/achey/bloated/sick and broke for to gain a little weight. I admit it, it's just too much for me to take on and I do not want it enough.

Sad, depressing story I know. But just giving you my angle. Some people can't handle it and that's probably me for a variety of reasons.
 
^Firstly, enjoy being skinny and weak.

Secondly, it will go up by possibly £20 a week lets be honest not 100's of £££.

As for digestive issues etc prob. worth speaking to a qualified nutritionist about that.
 
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As for digestive issues etc prob. worth speaking to a qualified nutritionist about that.
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I'm fairly certain that anyone can call themselves a nutritionist. I believe the protected word is Dietitian.

Not everyone who eats less than 6meals a day is using the IF method. Personally I found the "You should eat 5-7 meals a day" thing a bit off-putting when I started reading up.

To jaybee, if eating 3-4000 calories a day is 2-3 times what you normally eat, then that must mean you normally undereat. If you're not able to gain much size eating that amount (assuming that you genuinely are eating that amount), then eating 1-2000 calories a day doesn't sound healthy. :eek:
 
Let's face facts, you don't have to eat 3 times the amount of pure meat to whack up your calorie intake. Protein shakes with 30g protein, semi-skinned milk and nutella or peanut butter mixed in will whack up the calories. Calorific yet hardly bloating. It can be a lot cheaper than others pay. FreeFaller loves his fresh and good quality meats, so it's expensive for him. Others supplement their normal meals with the nutrients they need on a cheaper scale.

Others spend a lot of money on both good quality food and supplements because have a strong and lean body is what makes them happy in life.

But you should never give up. Not getting the gains you want, ask on this forum. Tell them what you lift, what cardio you do and what you eat, and they'll help you get past that sticking point you're experiencing.
 
As above tbh. A friend of mine whose nickname is 'Nine Stone' (guess why!), got prescription steroids to help him get bigger, because he wasn't seeing the gains he wanted, he looked pretty low bodyfat before he was taking them. He says he eats 4500calories a day, but it looks more around 2500 to me, and his workout routine is shocking for someone wanting to build overall size.

Lots of cardio, and only a few resistance exercises. 3 ab exercises, curls, bench press, bent over rows, and something else which I've forgotten, no idea where he got this "routine" from. It's no wonder he wasn't gaining much. I've still got a tonne to learn, but some people think they are doing a lot more than they actually are to get results. He scoffs at forums like this, stronglifts or bodybuilding.com because he thinks everyone takes steroids, and that they all give out bad advice.
 
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4: COST COST COST. i have no idea how you guys eat what you eat and afford it. Do you literally go to work solely to spend it on food and gym membership? If I were to eat 2 - 3 times as much as I do, my food bill would go up....oh wait...2 - 3 times. That's 2 - 3 hundred pounds more every week or two. Cannot afford.
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sorry but that is complete bs mate.
Learn to cook and shop smart, my food bills hardly ever go over 150 a month because i am on a student diet and that's 3500-4000 calories a day with decent meals and the odd treat here and there. I'm not only shopping for organic and premium lean eefbut I'm not eating tesco value chicken portions either (which is nothing to be ashamed of)

If you want to go bulk on a budget then grab oats, milk, eggs, peanut butter frozen ckn breasts (4pounds per kg) and loads of rice/couscous/pasta/potatoes and some frozen veg and you can get yourself a half decent diet for less than 100 a month. But you have too cook and stop eating crap and making excuses.

As for the time, please, excuses again. I'm not debating that making fancy stuff takes time and money, but whacking that chicken breast in the oven with some seasoning and coming back 30mins later is not a lot of time at all.
same with the rice or pasta, whack em in a pot on the hob, let them simmer for 10-12 mins and come back. simples, but you have to try and stop complaining.
 
jaybee said:
1: I do not have time in my life to prepare and eat as much as 3-4000 calories a day.

4: COST COST COST. i have no idea how you guys eat what you eat and afford it. Do you literally go to work solely to spend it on food and gym membership? If I were to eat 2 - 3 times as much as I do, my food bill would go up....oh wait...2 - 3 times. That's 2 - 3 hundred pounds more every week or two. Cannot afford.
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It really takes very little time to prepare a decent meal. Chicken and potatoes and veg may take 45 mins of cooking but in reality only 10 mins of that is preparation. Doesnt take much longer to eat either.
I eat about twice as much calorie wise as i used to and my weekly bill went from £30 to £40-45, and thats not as cheap as it could be for sure. Lets be honest if you're spending £100 a week on food already and eating less than 2000 calories a day you're doing something very wrong.
 
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