New PC (big budget)

Future proofing, for someone who doesn't really play games (he grabs them, plays for a day or two then gets bored) then surely the RAM to 16GB is a pretty cheap upgrade and way to future proof the system instead of getting 2 GPU's.
 
Peerzy said:
Future proofing, for someone who doesn't really play games (he grabs them, plays for a day or two then gets bored) then surely the RAM to 16GB is a pretty cheap upgrade and way to future proof the system instead of getting 2 GPU's.
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For someone who doesnt really play games, why does he need the rig at all?

16gb is completely ott though. Im running 8 and I've never used more than 4.

That's still another £140 odd you could put into something else, not exactly cheap. Get a better PSU and go for a custom waterloop instead or something.
 
He doesn't need the rid he wants it. The money is burning a hole in his pocket, he'd rather get this stuff and just know he has a PC sorted for 3 years than ***** it on something else.

Okay, say he goes for 8GB, what would you get for the extra £140, he's already getting a damn good PSU and that wouldn't make the PC any quicker or last any longer. Ditto the watercooling option, he's already looking at a decent case with good air flow and one of those H50 water things. He's got the best speed SSD you can buy, the best CPU, motherboard that appears to do everything, graphics card which will cover him for years.

It just seems the obvious answer is in 3 years time stuff will be using more than 4GB, maybe more than 8GB and it would just one day potentially cover him.

I do see your point though, maybe 8GB would be enough. He's got 8GB at the moment so considering he's spending all this money it was just a logical step to look into 16GB considering it's pretty cheap.
 
can he have a rig for £500 and Give me the other £1k to put towards a deposit for a house then? logical has nothing to do with it, what people are telling you is that they have 8gb of ram, most hardly even use 4, so to have 16 would have no benefit for a good few years yet, there would be no difference in the comp at all. and by the time(if it ever comes) it comes in to use, the rest of the rig will be so outdated, he will have another bonus and be wanting a whole new rig.
 
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Same Build as above, seems to be cheaper tho?

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You've gone for 8GB of PC12800 where as my build had 16GB of PC 15000.

Any reason why you've gone for a different motherboard (about £20~ cheaper)?

650w PSU against a 950w is another £50, slightly different CPU cooling and mine had the added TV card (£30).
 
Peerzy said:
You've gone for 8GB of PC12800 where as my build had 16GB of PC 15000.

Any reason why you've gone for a different motherboard (about £20~ cheaper)?

650w PSU against a 950w is another £50, slightly different CPU cooling and mine had the added TV card (£30).
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i went for the lower ram as you can clock it yourself and like i said, 16gb is so pointless for his needs you dont even know, he may aswell use the extra £140 as toilet paper.

Changed the mobo out for no real reason, i like the look of the p67 sabertooth with its black jacket, the x58 was a good board, very stable, not heard much from the one you chose. Review of the p67 sabertooth

650w will be plenty enough for the build, anymore is a waste unless he plans on goin sli/xfire, the xfx model is a quality unit too.
 
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Appreciate the build but he already has a brand new 24" Iiyama monitor and 26" Toshiba TV that will both be used as monitors so no need. Same with the graphics card, his gaming is minimal, he tends to pick one up, play for half an hour and then put it down never to be played again so no real need for the better GPU over the 480.

Appreicate what your saying though for £1500 he could get a better all round purchase but at the end of the day, he has a monitor and will never use the extra power from the graphics card.
 
danewesley said:
i went for the lower ram as you can clock it yourself and like i said, 16gb is so pointless for his needs you dont even know, he may aswell use the extra £140 as toilet paper.

Changed the mobo out for no real reason, i like the look of the p67 sabertooth with its black jacket, the x58 was a good board, very stable, not heard much from the one you chose.

650w will be plenty enough for the build, anymore is a waste unless he plans on goin sli/xfire, the xfx model is a quality unit too.
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How easy is it to clock the ram? He already has 8GB of that G.Skill stuff in his current build.

His current PSU is also only a week old Corsair 650w one.
 
id keep the psu and ram, there is a ram overclocking guide on the overclocking thread i think, if its not there them maybe the ram thread.

i think if you listed his actual needs for a system you would find his current rig was overkill already.

is there no other thing he would want to spend the money on? what about a soundcard, surround sound system and a projector? if he hardly games, and doesnt use rendering, encoding programs etc then theres no need for an i7 2600k
 
I hear what your saying, but it's his money and he'll do what he wants with it - no matter what I tell him. My 'job' is to simply get him the best components possible.

He uses iTunes a bit and watches the odd movie but no need for a seperate sound card, he's already got speakers setup how he likes and has a brand new 2600lumens Epson projector.
 
dont bother with ram higher than 1600mhz, you dont need to sit with a mega agressive overclock on the ram and memory controller when you are only overclocking to 4ghz, mine is on turbo to 4.6 when more than a single core is poked and im running 16gig of 1600mhz vengeance ram. there is just no reason why spending more money on ram will even give a whiff of noticable difference when using 4 sticks
 
If the board, CPU and cooling will take it I'd be suprised if he didn't ask me to just OC it as far as was safe, so 4.6GHz~.
 
£500 on a graphics card when a £200 is going to do him? He already has that SSD so wants the one that's got double the read and write speed. He already has an i5.

Case does look good, is the AK H20 better than the one I had?
 
how long ago didhe buy that system? because all buissnesses legallly have to give you atleast 7 days to get a full refund on what you brought, and i even managed to do this like 10 days after i got my 560 ti :D
 
ok, how about:
Intel Core i7 970 3.20GHz (Gulftown) (Socket LGA1366) - Retail £449.99
Gigabyte GA-X58A-UD7 Intel X58 (Socket 1366) DDR3 Motherboard £299.99
OCZ Vertex 3 120GB 2.5" SATA-3 Solid State Hard Drive £239.99
Corsair Professional Series™ Gold AX850 High Performance 850W Power Supply £157.99
GeIL 12GB (3x4GB) DDR3 PC3-12800C9 1600MHz VALUE PLUS Triple Channel £119.99
Fractal Design Define XL Full Tower Case - Black Pearl £94.99
Compro VideoMate E900F Dual Tuner TV Card - Retail £84.76
Thermaltake Frio CPU Cooler £42.98
Fractal Design 140mm Silent Cooling Fan £12.24
Fractal Design 120mm Silent Cooling Fan £9.98
Total : £1,527.90
 
wentalong said:
how long ago didhe buy that system? because all buissnesses legallly have to give you atleast 7 days to get a full refund on what you brought, and i even managed to do this like 10 days after i got my 560 ti :D
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It's nearly 2 weeks ago now, he missed out by being lazy, not making his mind up quick enough and a few days. He's not too bothered he'll get most of the money back on the stuff he sells and stuff he doesn't he'll just keep for a rainy day.

beninfluence said:
ok, how about:
Intel Core i7 970 3.20GHz (Gulftown) (Socket LGA1366) - Retail £449.99
Gigabyte GA-X58A-UD7 Intel X58 (Socket 1366) DDR3 Motherboard £299.99
OCZ Vertex 3 120GB 2.5" SATA-3 Solid State Hard Drive £239.99
Corsair Professional Series™ Gold AX850 High Performance 850W Power Supply £157.99
GeIL 12GB (3x4GB) DDR3 PC3-12800C9 1600MHz VALUE PLUS Triple Channel £119.99
Fractal Design Define XL Full Tower Case - Black Pearl £94.99
Compro VideoMate E900F Dual Tuner TV Card - Retail £84.76
Thermaltake Frio CPU Cooler £42.98
Fractal Design 140mm Silent Cooling Fan £12.24
Fractal Design 120mm Silent Cooling Fan £9.98
Total : £1,527.90
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Isn't that the older i7 socket and CPU?

Hydrogoo said:
Peerzy, you can drop the i7 2600k and get an i5 2500k, it can be just as easily overlcocked to 4.5Ghz on Air.
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i7 2600k has got a bit more grunt about it though doesn't it, it's not just the clock speed which is different. Plus spending £1500 and not getting an i7 seems a bit weird to me and the price difference isn't that big.
 
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